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Old 05-11-2009, 12:31 AM
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Arrow Tire Mount Hinge

I am building a bumper that is going to have a swing out tire carrier on it. I have seen 2 different types of hinges that will work, a solid round stock of steel for the spindle with a close fitting sleeve that has been greased, and a trailer axle type spindle with bearings and races. I would like to know if one is stronger than the other and if there are any benefits to one over the other. FYI The tire carrier I have planned will carry a 35" tire, 10 gallons of fuel, a high-lift, a shovel, and a rack for extra gear.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:23 AM
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I use a steel shaft with a bronze sleeve on mine and wish I would have made it with the a bearing design. This will move easier and be easier to replace the bearing if they ever wear out. I also have issues with added weight other then the tire. It seems to flex because of the weight and my latch doesn't work the greatest. My suggestion would be go with the bearings.
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:53 AM
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use a front axle spindle and hub.

use the hub to lock it open.

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Old 05-11-2009, 11:58 AM
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Here's what I'm going to try:


SAE 841 Bronze bushings and a graphite plugged thrust washer. The shaft is 1" and the bushing fit in 1.5x.120 wall tube. Not sure how well it'll work....

Summit machine makes a nice kit
It was too large to fit on my bumper otherwise I would have used it.
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Old 05-11-2009, 12:30 PM
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use a front axle spindle and hub.

use the hub to lock it open.

That is a good idea maybe I will try that on my next project.

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Here's what I'm going to try:


SAE 841 Bronze bushings and a graphite plugged thrust washer. The shaft is 1" and the bushing fit in 1.5x.120 wall tube. Not sure how well it'll work....

Summit machine makes a nice kit
It was too large to fit on my bumper otherwise I would have used it.
That kit from summit looks pretty good for the price. I don't think I could make it myself for that cheep.

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Old 05-11-2009, 12:39 PM
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That kit from summit looks pretty good for the price. I don't think I could make it myself for that cheep.
is an extra 1/8" on the inner shaft really worth an extra $65???

http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/pieces/hinge.htm
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Old 05-11-2009, 12:57 PM
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is an extra 1/8" on the inner shaft really worth an extra $65???

http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/pieces/hinge.htm
No not really. It looks like a little bit over engineered for its purpose. I just know how long it takes to make something like that and I could not do it that cheap, even for myself. It looks like they just used a spindle from a trailer (which is what they did). http://www.farmandfleet.com/catalog/...70&h=080502002 This one looks just like the spindle. Add the bearing and the seals and you are set.
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Old 05-11-2009, 03:15 PM
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I used a 1 1/4 round trailer stub axle & bearings from tractor supply.
the stub slides right into a piece of 1.5 .120 wall tubing welded through your bumper & the bearings fit nicely into a 2" .250 wall sleeve for the hinge.
I think the rating on the axle was 3500# .
not bad for 40$

looks like rockstomper copied my idea!!
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Old 05-11-2009, 03:38 PM
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looks like rockstomper copied my idea!!
i know i've bought them from rockstomper for at least 4 years...
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:46 AM
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The one Rock Stomper uses is too small. Many have had them break due to the small dia and the sharp radius at the base. Get a 1,750 lb unit. It has larger radii and more meat. you do need to cut your own sleeve though.

Make sure you support the top of the tire carrier with a bumper against the rig, this will stop vibrations that cuase the cracks in the first place.
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:48 AM
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Summit Machine sells a really nice hinge kit with internal bearings. I am getting ready to install one on a customers vehicle. http://www.summitmachine.com/store/i...ion/index.html
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Old 05-15-2009, 01:08 PM
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I've used the rockstomper hinge a couple times... they are more than sturdy, IMO, and I like the greasable zerk fitting on the side of the hinge.
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:10 PM
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I use one like this http://www.summitmachine.com/store/i...ion/index.html but its only $50 to $75 off ebay or just about any trailer supply store. They work great.
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:20 PM
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you may want to try here. http://emsoffroad.com/shop/index.php...roducts_id=212
or here
http://www.atozfabrication.com/store...roductid=16138
or here this is the one I use alot.
http://shop.jeeptubes.com/product.sc...9&productId=37
Hope this helps.
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Old 05-17-2009, 12:22 AM
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Thanks for all the great input. I think I will stay away from Rockstomper as I have heard that they are having issues with them.
I have it narrowed down to the AtoZand the summit hinges, leaning more towards the summit just because it is the beefist hinge that you guys have showed me, I'd like to do it right the first time so I figure if I over build it I shouldn't have any regrets.
My only concern with the summit hinge is the shaft that goes into the bumper is about an 1" to short, where the AtoZ hinge (The mega duty upgrade) would be long enough to go all the way through. It doesnt look like the load bearing shaft of the mega duty is any bigger compared to the regular duty shaft though, only rated at 1000lbs.
Do you think I could still use the summit shaft even though it is to short to go all the way through the bumper, maybe make a sleeve inside the bumper for it to fit into, and then weld it in? Does anybody know what the summit shaft is rated at also? Thanks

-Jeremy
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