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Old 11-09-2006, 11:27 PM
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Guy sent me this drawing to go in his GMC van........dont ask. Is this something I could plug into bend tech and figure out where my bends need to be? 1.5" tube, 6" CLR die
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:00 AM
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The answer is yes. A couple of the numbers need to be back figured:

If this is something you want me to do to get you the right numbers, then I need you to find the CLR, Calibrated CLR and the Bend Location Offset from the following pdf file:

http://www.2020softwaresolutions.com...ation_0611.pdf

I think the part should be 4 bends (the print looks like maybe 5). Is this correct?

Please give me hard numbers. Not min and max numbers.
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:07 AM
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Ill find out that stuff about my die this weekend and get back to you. I think I found a free computer so the software is the next buy
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:17 AM
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If you are using a Model 3 or a 105, read the above calibration doc and go to step 5 to make sure which way to put the tubing in. Line the Location marks in the following pic with the front edge of your die (not the strap or screw). I reduced the 69 to 68.5 and increased the 53 to 53.5 to meet the min/max issues.

The cut length is at the top of the screen.
You will find the mark locations under that.
The angles are the angles of bend after the tube is out of the bender (you account for your spring back).

I did an educated guess on your tooling calibration, however, I have been known to be getting pretty good at this.

I have no idea what the run of 5 and rise of 3 is for in your print in the upper right hand corner.

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Old 11-10-2006, 12:21 AM
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If you are using a Model 3 or a 105, read the above calibration doc and go to step 5 to make sure which way to put the tubing in. Line the Location marks in the following pic with the front edge of your die (not the strap or screw). I reduced the 69 to 68.5 and increased the 53 to 53.5 to meet the min/max issues.

The cut length is at the top of the screen.
You will find the mark locations under that.
The angles are the angles of bend after the tube is out of the bender (you account for your spring back).

I did an educated guess on your tooling calibration, however, I have been known to be getting pretty good at this.

I have no idea what the run of 5 and rise of 3 is for in your print in the upper right hand corner.


YEAH WHAT HE SAID!
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:28 AM
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YEAH WHAT HE SAID!
You like that?


I used a CLR of 6.25, a Cal of 6.875 and an offset of -.75

cross my fingers and he should have a pretty good part. This is guess work because the calibration isn't done.
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the top right is different then the left. It has to clear the sliding door thingy.
I would *guess* that he meant 5" from the beginning of the bend to the outside of the down tube but it kinda looks like it has to clear a 5x3 box or something. Not the best drawing but better than some Ive gotten from people
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the top right is different then the left. It has to clear the sliding door thingy.
I would *guess* that he meant 5" from the beginning of the bend to the outside of the down tube but it kinda looks like it has to clear a 5x3 box or something. Not the best drawing but better than some Ive gotten from people
There is no way they would know where the beginning of the bend would be. I think you need to get a better definition. At this point if the part doesn't fit because you don't understand their print, YOU are going to be the one to eat the part.

As sure as you get something I dare work off of, I am sure we can get something figured out.
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I used a CLR of 6.25, a Cal of 6.875 and an offset of -.75

cross my fingers and he should have a pretty good part. This is guess work because the calibration isn't done.
I enjoy your knowlege.
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There is no way they would know where the beginning of the bend would be. I think you need to get a better definition. At this point if the part doesn't fit because you don't understand their print, YOU are going to be the one to eat the part.

As sure as you get something I dare work off of, I am sure we can get something figured out.
Not making anything at this point. Dude is a weird guy, can tell just from the way he types. Just trying to get myself to pony up for the software.
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Old 11-10-2006, 12:49 AM
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Not making anything at this point. Dude is a weird guy, can tell just from the way he types. Just trying to get myself to pony up for the software.
Got ya. Wew, I was afraid I was going to need to sober up this evening and design a part.

Sheesh, I can give you about 125 reasons to pony up if you are interested.
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This guy didnt have software to bend a cage....
































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ok how do i buy bt pro?
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Oh Chris ATTENTION Chris.... better jump before I steel your sale...
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ok how do i buy bt pro?

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This guy didnt have software to bend a cage....


BTW no one was hurt in the making of this sales tool LOL
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