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Old 07-22-2017, 03:03 PM
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parking holderz

Looking for my options
Going with a classic GM Caliper and rotor on a 14-Bolt.
Need a “Parking” Brake.
Could be on the rotors, or on the back of the 205: Haven’t even looked at these parts in 10 years.
Jesse has one on the T/C
There are the Eldorado type calipers.
Willwood has mechanical units
There is the basics from back in the day...
......Anything new?

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Old 07-22-2017, 04:12 PM
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The only other option that I know of is the parking brake shoe inside the rotor. I believe those began in the mid 90's?
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Old 07-22-2017, 05:09 PM
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The only other option that I know of is the parking brake shoe inside the rotor. I believe those began in the mid 90's?
right like the eSploder 8.8 in my Ranger...
That design (Ford's anywayz) brings the suck to a parking brake system!

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Old 07-23-2017, 06:57 AM
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there is a company here in the UK called X eng, they do a park brake disc conversion for land rovers, back of the transfer case.
Could you maybe adapt a brake disc to fit the output flange, then use something like a rear caliper from say a VW Golf or audi. they have a cable handbrake mechanism built in to the rear caliper.
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Old 07-23-2017, 10:22 AM
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there is a company here in the UK called X eng, they do a park brake disc conversion for land rovers, back of the transfer case.
Could you maybe adapt a brake disc to fit the output flange, then use something like a rear caliper from say a VW Golf or audi. they have a cable handbrake mechanism built in to the rear caliper.
A used rotor is 32mm thick, new a-bit thicker.
Where I live they gold plate Euro'box parts and then strip the plating after you pay... still worth looking in to; I'll make a phone call tomorrow and see if I can learn anything.

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Old 07-23-2017, 12:32 PM
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from looking at most of the tc conversions we have over here, they look like motorcycle discs. or a crap bit of flat plate, the calipers look exactly like the brake caliper I had on my Kart when I used to race back in the day. simple cable operated. Junkyard might find you jaguar xjs rear handbrake setup, that was inboard discs running offf the diff flanges, and the handbrake was a separate little cable operated caliper. probably easiest just to use a motorcycle or cycle disc and cable caliper. they are surprisingly efficient if all you want is park
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Old 07-23-2017, 01:26 PM
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from looking at most of the tc conversions we have over here, they look like motorcycle discs. or a crap bit of flat plate, the calipers look exactly like the brake caliper I had on my Kart when I used to race back in the day. simple cable operated. Junkyard might find you jaguar xjs rear handbrake setup, that was inboard discs running off the diff flanges, and the handbrake was a separate little cable operated caliper. probably easiest just to use a motorcycle or cycle disc and cable caliper. they are surprisingly efficient if all you want is park
You have no idea just was used Jag parts go for over here IF you can find them
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Old 07-23-2017, 03:20 PM
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The x eng brake punk steel is referring to his a flat disc which is approx 8-10mm thick and a JCB caliper and goes in place of the standard prop mounted drum unit, maybe another option could be using a 2nd hand land rover drum unit from a discovery 1 or 2, and adapt it

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Old 07-24-2017, 03:39 AM
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we recently had a chinese rip off of a sinister sand sports rail come to us from a customer. A piece of junk, crushed bends everywhere, very thin tube etc etc, it all got ugly for the customer and the chinese suppliers but he never got anywhere with them. Anyway, the front brakes were off a dirt bike, almost useless for stopping a speeding rail, but would work well enough as a parking brake if you are allowed hydraulic?
Adam, didnt realise it was a jcb caliper, interesting!
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:10 PM
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The JCB Caliper at least some of them are/were made by Ausco here in the US. Ausco makes among other designs, a mechanical unit for universal application. By the specifications looks it would function well. It is limited to a T/C Output location due to the thickness of the Disk; no idea on price, maintenance parts could be an issue though the advantage of these units being currently in production, in the US.
Willwood makes a Mechanical Spot Caliper that is running around $100 per unit.

As to the design: Due to some (likely out of date) regulations, the secondary brake system must be mechanical. Just as the Steering system must be mechanically connected all the way to the tire from the steering wheel. Unless things get changed the whole Drive-By-Wire thing is basically illegal............................... My illiterate state requires that your Fog Lights must only operate with the High Beams on!
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Will this be street legal ??

I know some places the Transfer case brakes are not legal

Broken axle or dropped drive shaft things can Roll away
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:54 PM
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100% Street legal.

If what you say is true it is a local thing because many older 4x4;s have output shaft brakes from the factory: Willys for example. Now it may be that you are not allowed to change it from whatever the factory config was...
If so then

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We have used a brake valve to lock in pressure. It will hold a rig on 40s no problem. Don't waste your money ok el derado calipers.
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We have used a brake valve to lock in pressure. It will hold a rig on 40s no problem. Don't waste your money ok el derado calipers.
No problem there, except that it has to (technically) be mechanical.
I have a couple Mico Locks


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