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Old 02-20-2010, 07:41 PM
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The build is to the point where I have to have the frame.... so we started on it
I took my cad drawling over to my buddy's early ford chassis shop to start the frame build.
Brian Cantrell of Car Company makes bar none the best Model A frame on the market, so nice in fact he supply's many hot rod shops through out the U.S..
Car Company is Pete and Jakes main supplier for model A frames, also their frame was recently featured on the "Wrench Clothing" build for West Coast Customs tv show.

So yes while we could build a model a frame in house, why would we when we can use such a talented company, with all the proper frame jigs, and fixtures.
They are only a 1/2 mile away, and you guessed it, trading powder coat for the bulk of the labor :mrgreen:

So on this one I'm the helper, it's my design, and Car Company is the craftsman, here's where we are as of last night
All the main stock cut to length, and the front frame horns cut to shape. I did get to cnc plasma cut the rear kick up gussets.
Not to bad for 2 people and 5 hours of werk
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:46 PM
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Well I don't know who's bright idea this was... but they need kicked in the butt.

Well, ok it was mine, I noticed a ton of rust in the gaps, and one thing lead to another and well... here it sits lol

time to get her blasted up, and repaired... I only want to do this 1 time, so getting rid of all the rust is a must
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Old 03-02-2010, 12:57 PM
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looking good Josh

ill be watching
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:13 PM
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looking good Josh

ill be watching
Pressures on now... I'll be sure to step my game up now


been SWAMPED at werk, gotten a few things done
God how I wish I could get 2 weeks of no werk to really just kick ass on this thing

Got some more sheet metal werk done on the cowl

made a new rear sub frame x-member, had some 11 ga bent into a "C" channel, then traced the profile on the old one, radius pie cut the "C" channel to match the old x-member, and bingo, werkz great!!
So, 4 hours of labor later, and trading a favor to the sheet metal shop I find out I could have purchased this same part for $70
O-well

layed up the sub frame, squared and centered everything on the table to start welding her up.

Got the perimeter frame back from Car Co., it looks great!!
A few things I couldn't figure for are going to need changed, but nothing major.
computer can only get you close when your mentally challenged like I am

anyway, here's some pics
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Old 04-20-2010, 11:41 PM
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its' gonna look sick once you sling those 39.5" boggers under it!!!
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Old 04-21-2010, 09:16 AM
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Give it a lil grave digger twaNG lol
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Old 04-23-2010, 09:29 AM
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Got a little bit done on the drivers side quarter panel.
tacked everything up, and did a small amount of hammer and dollie werk.
since I have so little to start with in regards to a car, I have to basically get every little project half done, until I can bring the bulk of the parts together.

FUN!!!
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Old 04-23-2010, 12:08 PM
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Lookin' good!

Does a Model A just unbolt into the pieces you show in your last post? I've never messed with one, but I'm assuming you didn't cut it up.
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Old 04-23-2010, 01:55 PM
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yes, just unbolts.
even that quarter panel unbolts at the belt line yet again.

really a nice concept, not sure why they don't still do this other than greed
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:20 PM
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subscribed, that is starting to look like an awesome build. Lots of fabrication time. Nice to see another one being brought back to life. I wish I had the time...and the space to start up one, or for that matter finish the ongoing one. Are you buying prefabbed panels or making stuff from scratch?

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Shane, if you want an interesting project I have a 1939 Hudson, 4 door (rear suicide doors) I would love to trade for tools any time -hijack off-
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Old 04-24-2010, 05:25 PM
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looking great i have always loved the look of the sedans great job
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:13 PM
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I have had ZERO spare time these past few months... which SUCKS!!!

A small update

I finally got some good info on measurements for the sub frame so I could put the bottom of the car together.
Once I triple checked all my measurements for accuracy, and square I started on my mounting system for the body to the frame.

After the 5" channel in the front, factory mount on the rear the rake of the body should look good. I had a client of mine who does first quality steel cabinet, counter top, etc werk bend me up some 14 ga as a "C" channel with the rake cut out of one leg to match the body rake. Then I cut out another strip of 14 ga to match the shape of the sub rails to box the under side of the body, and give it a nice clean look underneath.

first pic is top view of the sub frame mount sitting on the frame, almost don't see it

second is a bottom view showing the gap that was filled

third is a view from the opposite side showing how I need to do a little more werk to finish making this strong, then look good
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Old 07-06-2010, 05:45 PM
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Here is my buddies '29 with a stroker 383. All I got is this vid of it. Kinda like you are building.

http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/d...t=100_4846.mp4
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Old 07-06-2010, 11:06 PM
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that sounds good!!
Hope mine sounds that good
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:28 AM
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I love this tube bending software, Bend tech has saved me countless hours of grief, and $$$ in not making scrap parts.
http://www.2020softwaresolutions.com/ (shameless plug for you Chris)

I wanted to put a wire run tube in the drivers side sub rail to keep the wiring out of the passenger compartment as much as possible. after 5 minutes with a tape measure, 10 minutes on Bend tech, and 20 min to cut, lay out, and bend I have a wonderful part to do just that with

design the part, computer spits out a sheet that tells me where to bend the tube, and when to rotate it, how much rotation etc. end result is the software makes me look like I have skills, even tho I really don't. Which is good for me as I will need all the help I can get for the inner structure, suspension components and roll cage when the time comes.


Once the part was cut, bent and verified I located it in the frame to get measurements for trimming of the tube, and hole location. then of course cut the tube and holes for final fit, and welding. as you can tell I got side tracked and still have to do final fit, and welding. to this point it appears it will turn out very nicely however.
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:13 PM
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I got a little more done today, funny how long it takes to do a "simple task"
So far in boxing the sub rails, and running my wire chase I have around 10 hours in both sides, and another 2-3 to go befor it's complete.

Once complete I can FINALLY get the body back on and start with all the sheet metal that's actually seen

drivers side underneath boxing plate. As you can tell I goofed a little with my wire run, and had to form a channel in the plate

preliminary finishing for wire run.
I still need to do some finish sanding

Passenger side boxed, tacked and ready for final welding and sanding

Drivers side sub rail with wire run in it
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Old 08-24-2010, 07:08 PM
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A little werk here and there, got the passenger side cowl tacked in, and started on the inner tube structure for the cowl.
this way I'll be able to mount all the essentials rigidly (steering, brakes, electrical, etc)
not to mention help the body keep its shape
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Old 08-27-2010, 04:46 PM
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Got a few hours in befor werk today, a small update

I made some tabs to mount the double hoops, then I added some 1"x1" tube for cross bracing on the legs for added strength, and the ability to mount things potentially in the future.... one never knows
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:28 AM
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now that everything is together on the cowl I can move on to the doors.
First order of business is the lower inner corners.
After trying to make this piece by hand with 10 different small pieces of metal, a few hammers, and 10 lbs of filler wire I decided to try and make a punch and die to press form the parts.

I traced out the shape on paper, then cad, and cnc plasma cut out the rough shapes. welded everything together, did some finish sanding, hillbilly sighted the punch and die locations, and pressed out a few test parts.

I found that I need only have minimal waste material as the excess causes problems. I also found that I need to mill these parts out to 2-3 times the material thickness, and radius all the edges so the part doesn't get shear cut.

I have to wait for a friend to have time so I can use his mill to finish the die set.
However the test parts came out very well I think, especially considering I have never done anything like this befor.

I also made the die set reversible so making a right and left will be easy
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Old 09-27-2010, 01:39 PM
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Just wondering about those measurements

Nice Job man. Just wondering if you still have those measurements for the sub frame. I got a 31 Model A and the whole bottom has been cut off.
I would appreciate any help you could offer. Thanks.



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I have had ZERO spare time these past few months... which SUCKS!!!

A small update

I finally got some good info on measurements for the sub frame so I could put the bottom of the car together.
Once I triple checked all my measurements for accuracy, and square I started on my mounting system for the body to the frame.

After the 5" channel in the front, factory mount on the rear the rake of the body should look good. I had a client of mine who does first quality steel cabinet, counter top, etc werk bend me up some 14 ga as a "C" channel with the rake cut out of one leg to match the body rake. Then I cut out another strip of 14 ga to match the shape of the sub rails to box the under side of the body, and give it a nice clean look underneath.

first pic is top view of the sub frame mount sitting on the frame, almost don't see it

second is a bottom view showing the gap that was filled

third is a view from the opposite side showing how I need to do a little more werk to finish making this strong, then look good
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