Go Back OFN Forums > Fabrication > General Fabrication

General Fabrication Any Fab that does not fit into another Forum


General Fabrication Any Fab that does not fit into another Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 06-19-2017, 04:27 PM
entropy's Avatar
entropy entropy is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 95-miles from the center of Oregon.
Posts: 8,295
Gate hinge, self closing.

Looking for ideas... or weld on solutions.
I have to get a few gates built.
Nothing fancy, just walk through gates to keep the Deer out of the flowers.
The tricky bit is on two of them I need to have a self closing tendency.
The mechanism must blend into the gate frame work (1"-square stock) and must work both directions, the gate will swing in OR out (180).
These gates are outdoors and will see 100F summers and -30F Winters.

Anything?

E
__________________
Political Correctness isn't!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-19-2017, 05:08 PM
TheBandit's Avatar
TheBandit TheBandit is offline
Instagram @chevyhotrodder
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ventura County CA
Posts: 4,292
Self closing gate hinges like this one use a ramp so the gate lifts up slightly as it opens and gravity trying to pull it back down puts it back to center. You can do something similar by angling the post toward the direction you want the gate to close and compensating for the angle in your framework, but these hinges have adjustment.
__________________
Clint
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-19-2017, 05:15 PM
entropy's Avatar
entropy entropy is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 95-miles from the center of Oregon.
Posts: 8,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBandit View Post
Self closing gate hinges like this one use a ramp so the gate lifts up slightly as it opens and gravity trying to pull it back down puts it back to center. You can do something similar by angling the post toward the direction you want the gate to close and compensating for the angle in your framework, but these hinges have adjustment.
I'll look closer at the hinge.
Skewing the hinge axis only works in one direction these gates will open both directions.

E
__________________
Political Correctness isn't!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-19-2017, 05:36 PM
TheBandit's Avatar
TheBandit TheBandit is offline
Instagram @chevyhotrodder
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ventura County CA
Posts: 4,292
If you tilt the top of the post toward the closure direction, it will work in both directions.
__________________
Clint
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-19-2017, 05:56 PM
entropy's Avatar
entropy entropy is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 95-miles from the center of Oregon.
Posts: 8,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBandit View Post
If you tilt the top of the post toward the closure direction, it will work in both directions.
Yes but how do I tip it to close both directions?
__________________
Political Correctness isn't!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-19-2017, 06:28 PM
TheBandit's Avatar
TheBandit TheBandit is offline
Instagram @chevyhotrodder
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ventura County CA
Posts: 4,292
Imagine two posts, one on each side of the gate. One is the latch post and the other is the hinge post. If you take the top of the hinge post and tilt it toward the latch post, by gravity the gate will always try to swing toward the latch post, regardless of whether it's opened inward or outward.

The dimensions and weight of the gate along with the angle of the hinge axis will determine how difficult it is to open and how strongly it tends to close itself.
__________________
Clint

Last edited by TheBandit; 06-19-2017 at 06:43 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-19-2017, 07:13 PM
entropy's Avatar
entropy entropy is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 95-miles from the center of Oregon.
Posts: 8,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBandit View Post
Imagine two posts, one on each side of the gate. One is the latch post and the other is the hinge post. If you take the top of the hinge post and tilt it toward the latch post, by gravity the gate will always try to swing toward the latch post, regardless of whether it's opened inward or outward.

The dimensions and weight of the gate along with the angle of the hinge axis will determine how difficult it is to open and how strongly it tends to close itself.
ok got ya... must be the heat
__________________
Political Correctness isn't!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-19-2017, 07:19 PM
R.DesJardin's Avatar
R.DesJardin R.DesJardin is offline
Designer & Builder
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Clarkston, WA
Posts: 354
My guess unless it really latches/lock the deer will still get in and eat the Daisies. They pretty crafty but taste like crap.
__________________
Need, Design, Build, Use, repeat........
http://www.radesignsproducts.com/
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-19-2017, 07:51 PM
entropy's Avatar
entropy entropy is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 95-miles from the center of Oregon.
Posts: 8,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by R.DesJardin View Post
My guess unless it really latches/lock the deer will still get in and eat the Daisies. They pretty crafty but taste like crap.
I proposed eliminating the Flowers...

Having quit eating Red Meat completely a few years back; I just let them have the back 10 and we get to watch the Fawns develop year after year.

E
& no we do not feed or water the Deer.
__________________
Political Correctness isn't!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-19-2017, 09:04 PM
R.DesJardin's Avatar
R.DesJardin R.DesJardin is offline
Designer & Builder
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Clarkston, WA
Posts: 354
Ok. a simple solenoid latch that would engage after dark using a photo-electric cell. You could also use a 110V timer to lock and unlock automatically. Simple really just some wires, springs and such. "Bolts right up."
__________________
Need, Design, Build, Use, repeat........
http://www.radesignsproducts.com/
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-19-2017, 11:42 PM
entropy's Avatar
entropy entropy is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 95-miles from the center of Oregon.
Posts: 8,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by R.DesJardin View Post
Ok. a simple solenoid latch that would engage after dark using a photo-electric cell. You could also use a 110V timer to lock and unlock automatically. Simple really just some wires, springs and such. "Bolts right up."
That would do nicely but make it 12VDC and solar
__________________
Political Correctness isn't!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-20-2017, 08:38 AM
CarterKraft's Avatar
CarterKraft CarterKraft is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: DFW
Posts: 848
Me thinks you are going to want this kind.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-20-2017, 09:40 AM
alwaysFlOoReD's Avatar
alwaysFlOoReD alwaysFlOoReD is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Red Deer,AB Canada
Posts: 667
I don't think anyone has mentioned the saloon bar swinging door hinge style yet. I believe it's like two spring loaded hinges in one package, needing two packages per door.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-20-2017, 10:00 AM
entropy's Avatar
entropy entropy is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 95-miles from the center of Oregon.
Posts: 8,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by CarterKraft View Post
Me thinks you are going to want this kind.
Way out of the budget.
Way cool solution!

E
__________________
Political Correctness isn't!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-20-2017, 10:05 AM
entropy's Avatar
entropy entropy is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 95-miles from the center of Oregon.
Posts: 8,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysFlOoReD View Post
I don't think anyone has mentioned the saloon bar swinging door hinge style yet. I believe it's like two spring loaded hinges in one package, needing two packages per door.
...exactly what I was thinking originally, but I never found them for outdoor application.
The hinges will be over the top step up, to the deck, and I can't have them rust and stain the decking over time.

E
__________________
Political Correctness isn't!
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-20-2017, 02:03 PM
R.DesJardin's Avatar
R.DesJardin R.DesJardin is offline
Designer & Builder
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Clarkston, WA
Posts: 354
Quote:
Originally Posted by entropy View Post
...exactly what I was thinking originally, but I never found them for outdoor application.
The hinges will be over the top step up, to the deck, and I can't have them rust and stain the decking over time.

E
Just fabricate a set using stainless. Springs, well um. Use surgical tubing with a black sheath over it like the stupid expanding hoses.
__________________
Need, Design, Build, Use, repeat........
http://www.radesignsproducts.com/
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-20-2017, 03:06 PM
entropy's Avatar
entropy entropy is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 95-miles from the center of Oregon.
Posts: 8,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by R.DesJardin View Post
Just fabricate a set using stainless. Springs, well um. Use surgical tubing with a black sheath over it like the stupid expanding hoses.
...time I spend on this, is directly slowing the rebuild of my 75...
It is kind of like Beer, the time I'd spend brewing could be spent drinking

E
__________________
Political Correctness isn't!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-20-2017, 03:33 PM
juicedz4's Avatar
juicedz4 juicedz4 is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 499
https://www.hingeoutlet.com/collecti...blsprh-us32d-6

https://www.deelat.com/building-mate...ish-15mm-thick

Last edited by juicedz4; 06-20-2017 at 03:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-20-2017, 04:46 PM
entropy's Avatar
entropy entropy is offline
Master Fabricator
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: 95-miles from the center of Oregon.
Posts: 8,295
Quote:
Originally Posted by juicedz4 View Post
Thankz! Price isn't bad too
__________________
Political Correctness isn't!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-20-2017, 04:56 PM
TheBandit's Avatar
TheBandit TheBandit is offline
Instagram @chevyhotrodder
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ventura County CA
Posts: 4,292
Gravity is cheap, simple, and reliable. Just sayin'.
__________________
Clint
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:47 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Template-Modifications by TMS
Copyright 2012, Offroad Fabrication Network