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Old 03-29-2011, 09:55 AM
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The Draggin Wagon

Its time for a new project. Hopefully this one wont take near the time, or monies, to complete. So far I have $0 into it.

I've never dropped anything so this will be a new experience.

The plans:
'59 willys wagon. c-notched frame to get it on the ground (if needed)
Body: FREE. stock for now. Chop-top down the road. Have some extensive rust repair to button up first.
front axle: unknown at this point. Searching for something cheap/free that will work
front suspension: unknown at this point. Whatever I come up with to work with whatever axle I find.

rear axle: something fullwidth that i can get free/cheap
rear suspension: outboard, raised hanger, leafs

engine/trans: '02 ranger 4.0 ( I know I know… lame in a hotrod. I don’t care. I have it. It was FREE. And will net 20+ MPG)

tires: Currently have a set of ½ wore 32’s free.

timeframe: eventually it'll be done.
budget: under $4k

and the beginning. pulled the wagon body off on sat.:

stance is about right.


not toooo much to be done here (hopefully)
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:03 AM
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:26 AM
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nice

Looks like a fun project....
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Old 03-29-2011, 10:46 AM
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Nice, good to see you getting started.

That second pic, totally reminds me of Dratwagon's sitting on the ground.

I'm looking forward to seeing this build.

Good Luck

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Old 03-29-2011, 02:25 PM
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cool build!!
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:17 AM
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alright guys i need some crazy ideas.

i REALLY want to keep the rear tires outside the body. but to do that i need a WIDE rear axle. wider than anything i know of. body is 62" wide and most fullwidth pickup axles are around the same WMS measurement. i need something like 74" wide.

things i've thrown around:
1. cut off one tube, extend, offset rear dif, have a custom shaft made.

2. take two axles, cut off one of the tubes on each, weld the two diffs together. spool one of them, and make an intermediate shaft to go between them.

3. make the rear a coast axle, any width i want, run a t-case and make it front wheel drive.

4. IRS

5. tear into the body. raise and lengthen the wheelwells so it keeps a "stock" looking arch, tub the floor with a 55gal drum. tires will partially extend beyond the body.

6. weld another wheel to the wheels as a 6" spacer.

7. narrow the entire tub.

option 5 is currently in the lead as it is the cheapest/safest.

any other bright ideas?
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:57 AM
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Your #5 option would be the cheapest. You could also make custome axles with shafts but you are looking at a lot of $$$

I vote for #5

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Old 03-30-2011, 10:32 AM
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Dually wheels and axles with just the outer wheels?
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:42 AM
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i was just thinking bout the dually setup to pluss they make the rims and tires that convert it to one super wide rim and tire ill look for the link
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:48 AM
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http://www.powerstrokenation.com/for...ad.php?t=45808 here you go there called super singles i believe and they make the setup im talking bout happy building
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:50 AM
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Van axles are typically several inches wider then PU axles...
That and a duelly-spacer.
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:19 AM
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i think i have the axe situation figured out.

early 70's ford vans have a wide 9" with an offset pumpkin. i have one in the weeds, just need to find another one. then i can take the two long side shafts center the pumpkin, retube the long side and come out around 71" WMS. that should be JUST enough to not have to hack into the body withthe 32's
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Damn, so you're looking at close to 90" of width???

What are you thinking for getting the front to match???

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Old 04-01-2011, 12:18 PM
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Damn, so you're looking at close to 90" of width???

What are you thinking for getting the front to match???

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front will be close to stock width. up in the fenders. fenders will be raised up onto the hood, and lower part of fender stretched to not lose soo much of the stock appearance of them,.
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Old 04-05-2011, 12:11 PM
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Updates????
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:21 PM
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drove the donor truck home sunday. for as hard as it rolled at 75mph it drove home great, flew good, and lands decently. almost a shame to cut it up. LOL

got the bed ripped off so i can do some measuring.

will get some pics of it tonight.
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:09 AM
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some progress this weekend.

friday night pulled the cab off:


sat morn got up ready to rock and roll and get some shit done. set both the chassis side by side and grabbed a tape measure.

the next two hours went something like this: "hmmm... shit... shit... hhmm.. shit shit shit shit... *beer* shit. hmm.. shit."

needless to say. the ranger chassis is going to be a PITFA to use. couple that with my dissatisfaction of the EFI engine, having to find a 2wd tranny etc... F-IT. i put it on craigs.

NEW PLAN:

use the stock frame... c-notch the rear. buy some carbed engine and some trans off craigs. slap it in.

had to get the chassis into the trailer. pulled front axle since it was just going to be in the way, and grabbed the tractor again.


once i got it up in there i began stripping it down. few hours later, VIOLA. not a single bolt left in the thing.


frame is in amazingly good shape. no rust anywhere.

will definitely have to duplicate this previous owners shock retainer.


i need parts to get much else done. on the search for an old carbed v6 (231 buick popped up this morning) and a early 70's e100 rear 9".

will probably start on the notch this-coming weekend as i can do that without the axle.
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Old 04-18-2011, 03:56 PM
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the next two hours went something like this: "hmmm... shit... shit... hhmm.. shit shit shit shit... *beer* shit. hmm.. shit."
LMAO

I can't even tell you how many of my projects go the same way.
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That's how you know a new project has begun.........right?!?!?
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Old 04-22-2011, 10:33 PM
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i was dreading this. sometime in the past someone had fiber-glassed the entire front floors.

pulled the glass, and this is what i found.





then the sun set, and i worked on a plan.



thereIfixedit.



and its new(to me) 5cyl diesel mercedes motor and trans will be here tomorrow.
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