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Old 05-02-2016, 09:13 PM
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While checking out Pirate this weekend I noticed how everything has shifted to big tire, big axle, big horsepower buggy builds. Nothing wrong with that but some of the US you don't need a linked super flexy LS power buggy to do most of our wheelin. This led me to flashback to the 80's when CJ2, 3 and 5 Jeeps were basically stock, minimal lift, maybe a stock V6 or V8 swap and 32 or 33's. Seemed we could wheel all year and never break a thing always driving there and back. Always having a great time. I'm thinking its time to get back to the basics and make it more the outing than a competition. I'm keeping my eye out locally for a CJ5 that's not all shiny.
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Old 05-02-2016, 10:11 PM
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In my CJ era, my favorite is was my 57 CJ-6 with a 283 and 5.38's.
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:36 PM
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guys out in standard and Junker 4x4's always have the most fun!!!
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I know what your saying. I have $10K into a former KOH chassis that still needs another 2-3K to make it driveable.

In the mean time I literally looked around the shop and spotted a 98 Dodge 2500 that I paid $300 for intending to part it out. 5.9 V-8, auto, D60s with 4:10s. Hmm.... I removed the bed and doors and kept cutting until my 42s off the buggy kinda cleared, Borrowed the seats and harnesses out of the buggy and the front bumper and winch off my expedition truck project and welded both diffs. Thats it. no lift. no hydro steer, nothing.

I've been wheeling it for a year. It makes me giggle every time I drive it and has won 3 trophy's and $525 in prize money in local events. I might not bother finishing the buggy...
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Old 07-15-2016, 03:54 PM
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Where is the line?
Is it street legal or is it some limit to the scope of modification(s)?

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Old 07-16-2016, 09:37 AM
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Where is the line?
Is it street legal or is it some limit to the scope of modification(s)?

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Rules? Hmmmm.....my thought was as I flashback to the '80's thinking of my buddies Jeeps. Lift for 33's, which means rubber bolt on flares. Mmmmm let's say a V6 swap, maybe a TH350 too, but a manual is fine. Winch. Better seats. Cage of course. What did I miss.
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Old 11-02-2016, 06:59 PM
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Coil-overs or coil springs?
I'm going to say no Coil-overs and what about Remote Rezz shocks or is that to Y2K? So, going back to the 60z, 7Dz, 8ees, we have White Cans...
I'm planning on a derivative for the Ford 1/2T, RArm, set-up for two builds and the more I think about it the more it is going to be Coil-buckets and multi inverted White-Cans


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Old 11-02-2016, 09:24 PM
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No, coilovers. I remember a few guys messing with coils and radius arm fronts but that was way out there even though Ford was doing it. Yes white shocks or yellow but I don't think they are around anymore. If you were really cool you had dual white shocks on the front. So inverted means N filled, that was high tech.
Remote res on a trail rig? I still wonder how far and how fast and on how rough of terrain I need to drive to experience shock fade where its an issue???? Your thoughts?
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Old 11-03-2016, 12:12 AM
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Yup, in the early 80z, I had 18-inches of front travel, and just about 10" in the rear. Still have the dual shock brackets that I ran, but never finished. They worked just fine
I could overwhelm the Dual White-Cans in about a mile in the rough.

Yellow as in the magnums? That really goes back!
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:18 AM
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We don't have a mile of open rough to be on it around here. And when I did the PNW racing it was more about corners that bumps.
Yellow, I just remember the color but not the brand. Rough Country?
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Old 11-03-2016, 12:06 PM
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We don't have a mile of open rough to be on it around here. And when I did the PNW racing it was more about corners that bumps.
Yellow, I just remember the color but not the brand. Rough Country?
Yes the PNW4WDA was about the turns and not so much about the wheeling back in the day. Could be why we didn't(still don't) hang with em or the clubs that did: right or wrong that is just the way it was.
That said we did build/support a barrel racer for a while.
Wide and low, 7.5" of driveshaft....

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Old 11-03-2016, 09:57 PM
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Yes the PNW4WDA was about the turns and not so much about the wheeling back in the day. Could be why we didn't(still don't) hang with em or the clubs that did: right or wrong that is just the way it was.
That said we did build/support a barrel racer for a while.
Wide and low, 7.5" of driveshaft....

Yeller...
Monroe Magnum
Superlift
Bilstien(sp)
If you didn't live near the WA Cascades you got left out of the PNW, its still that way.

I thought I had a set of Yellow N filled shocks, bought in the mid 80's. Maybe yellow boots on a stainless looking body. They were mounted body up.
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Old 11-04-2016, 12:59 AM
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
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I like this post, the most fun I ever had wheeling was an old $400 Ramcharger with 33 10.50s
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:00 PM
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If you didn't live near the WA Cascades you got left out of the PNW, its still that way.

I thought I had a set of Yellow N filled shocks, bought in the mid 80's. Maybe yellow boots on a stainless looking body. They were mounted body up.
I'm thinking those were Superlift, which could have been made by Gabriel, though they could have been made by Monroe.
All the white cans were made by basically one of two company's. Likely still are though now located in China I expect
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When I built my PNW "race Jeep" in the mid 80's I went white, with cool red boots. I was styling. I did know enough not to zip tie the boots to the shock bodies though.
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Old 11-05-2016, 05:14 PM
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For all the mud and swamps and 'sippi-holes' I never had a problem due to the zip ties... course I cut em off and cleaned there purty regular
I also zipted the red condom on the driveshaft slipyoke splines


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Old 11-05-2016, 09:33 PM
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Let's talk tires, how about a set of Armstrong TruTracs, 11-15's. Only thing I'd do now would be groove the center rib. Me and my buddies did a lot of wheelin on those tires. Yeah. Fun!
This was all before the radial tire made became popular. First radial I remember out wheelin was a BFG Mud-Terrain Oh wait the Wild Country Mud tire was a popular one too.
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Old 11-07-2016, 05:21 PM
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Yup many miles in them POS Armstrong tyrez did you ever notice that the OD varied as much as 4"? I thought they sucked but we run what we gotz
Then Dick Cepek Fun Country radials: best AT tread/tire ever!
Next the Schwabbie MT's
Then Q Swampers Radials
The last 20 years on BFG KO & KM.
Latest Goodyear Duratrac best snow tire in the LT market I've ever run.

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Old 11-08-2016, 09:47 AM
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10.00 wide Tire on 8" Wheels
12.00 on 10 inch wide Wheels
...so basically, Rim 2" narrower then Section.
Last couple years I've been experimenting with the whole narrower wheel and tire thing.
Conclusion, except on hard-pack snow and sometimes even there wider is better: My results of real world testing run completely counter to the ExPo crowd and I'm back to the classic 2" rule.


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