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Old 04-10-2016, 09:05 AM
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How do you label your wires?

As the title says, I'd like to know hoe everyone labels their wires to make reinstallation easier.

My current issue is that, between lights and gauge hookups, there are approximately a dozen wires going to the back of the 6"+/- diameter speedometer cluster.

I've marked the locations not he housing with a Sharpie and labeled each wire to match using 'flags' of painters tape.

But all of those flags seem to make working with the wires more difficult and it just looks terrible.

I would like to have them ID'd 'permanently', since this thing is 37 years old and I am sure I will have more electrical work to do.

So let's here your solutions….

Thanks in advance!!

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Old 04-10-2016, 10:02 AM
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I try and use a dymo tape machine with heatshrink if I put new in. If you are cutting the wires this may be an option
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Old 04-10-2016, 10:44 AM
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I've used this in the past and it works OK.



the downside is the labels can come off if you don't get them on well or they are exposed to a lot of cleaners and rubbing.
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Old 04-10-2016, 11:32 AM
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I like using multipin connectors so they always go back together correctly, without need for labels. But if a label us is needed, I have a Brother P-Touch label maker that works great. You can buy different sizes and colors of label "tape" to suit your needs. They aren't very expensive and you can find them at office supply stores. If you print the same word twice with a little space in between, you can fold the label back on itself around the wire to make a nice two-sided flag.
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:32 PM
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Use a Bee 3 + (plus) label printer with heat shrink. It can use 5 different heat shrink sizes. Hawk Labeling has them and newer models that can print on even more sizes of heat shrink and labels.
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Old 04-10-2016, 04:10 PM
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Does anybody have photos of their heat shrink labels?
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Old 04-10-2016, 04:21 PM
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I use the dymo machine will get number later
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Old 04-10-2016, 05:43 PM
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I use the dymo rhino 5200 printer.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:21 PM
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Clint, where in southern California are you? I'm driving to San Diego from Minnesota on Monday. I'll have my heat shrink label printer with me if you want to try it out.
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:09 PM
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Those are great! I have seen that type of label on wiring before, but never really thought about how they were made. I'm definitely going to pick up one of those printers!

INXS2 - Thank you for the kind offer. Unfortunately I live pretty far off the path to San Diego (near Ventura, north-west of Los Angeles). Have a safe trip - that is a LONG drive!
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Old 04-11-2016, 01:40 PM
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I acquired a Brady TLS2200 a long time ago. I need to pick up some heat shrink labels for it as I will be doing some harnesses sometime soon.

The price on that Dymo 5200 is pretty good!

Its best to put clear heat shrink over the heat shrink labels to prevent the text from wearing off.

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Old 04-11-2016, 01:44 PM
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Its best to put clear heat shrink over the heat shrink labels to prevent the text from wearing off.
On my Brother P-touch standard label printer (non-heat shrink), the cartridge automatically dispenses clear laminate over the printed label, so the printed text is covered and protected. I wonder if any of these heat-shrink label printers have a similar feature?
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Old 04-11-2016, 01:49 PM
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I dont think so. Most of the "motorsport" wiring places say they put clear over the printed labels.

Also now I recall why I never bought any shrink labels for that printer I have. They are minimum $75/roll. Or about $1.50 to $2 per piece....

It may be better to sell this thing and buy the Dymo one if the labels are more cost effective.

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Old 04-11-2016, 02:58 PM
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It looks like the Dymo and Brother heat shrink label cartridges run between $25-35 on Amazon. I suspect you'd need a few different sizes to cover the range of wire gauges and/or bundles you might use them on. That's one advantage to use doing label flags like what I've been doing, but these sure look a lot cleaner.
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Old 04-11-2016, 03:06 PM
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Yup. I have a bunch in my cart already haha. Im trying to figure out the exact difference between the 4200 ($45) and the 5200 ($95) labeler. The 5200 does one other type of label, but both do all the same heat shrink, so maybe it doesnt matter as thats probably all ill use this for.

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Old 04-11-2016, 04:12 PM
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Do they use the same cartridges? Same type of battery power or perhaps DC adapter / rechargeable? Network capabilities? Data save/retrieve? LMK what you find out so I can just order the same. Maybe we can get a two-fer discount? haha.
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:37 PM
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You guys have piqued my curiosity, so I looked at label makers on Amazon.

This link has a comparison chart at the bottom (at least for me):

http://www.amazon.com/DYMO-Industria...00+label+maker

Looks like the main difference is memory (25 vs. 100 label memory). There are some others also called out.

The idea of printing labels on heat shrink is too cool! Maybe when I build something that has more wiring than just two kill switches I'll buy one...
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Old 04-11-2016, 06:56 PM
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There is some good pictures of heat shrunk wiring here,
http://www.offroadfabnet.com/forums/...t=euro&page=11
And very professional wiring also may I add.
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Old 04-12-2016, 03:21 PM
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You guys have piqued my curiosity, so I looked at label makers on Amazon.

This link has a comparison chart at the bottom (at least for me):

http://www.amazon.com/DYMO-Industria...00+label+maker

Looks like the main difference is memory (25 vs. 100 label memory). There are some others also called out.
Well of course Amazon had a nice comparison, I never scrolled down enough. I was trying to use the one on Dymo's website which was crap, go figure.

About all that Dymo listed was the stuff about Patch Panels and Terminal Blocks.

I think for most of us here just doing wiring, the 4200 would be more than sufficient for half the price. Not to mention it has a QWERTY keyboard which is always so much easier to use.

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Old 04-12-2016, 04:40 PM
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I use the patch panel function to stop it wasting tape. I set a width of 20/25mm and then print 10 or 15 labels at a time. It marks a line at the set distance which I use to cut along.
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