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Old 11-17-2016, 09:48 AM
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Home Fab weird size plasma table

Ok. I know I am crazy but I think there is logic behind my madness.
The rules:
Smaller shop without a lot of extra room.
No real way to handle sheets of metal. Even the thin stuff can be more than a handful to store and move around. I do have a 16ga shear.
Do a fair amount of fab work but its not how I make money.
Typically smaller parts.

So I WANT a 12" x 48" plasma table. Sit next to the wall out of the way. I can then use flat bar and easily be able to handle the material with out a crane or forklift.
Maybe even 12" x 24". Yep crazy talk.

Really how big do you need at home?
How big are the parts you actually cut at home and how many?

Its a whole bunch easier to store flat bar in misc sizes that sheets, well in my shop anyway.

Opinions? You can't tell me I'm wrong cuz this is America and we all have an right to be different.
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Old 11-17-2016, 02:08 PM
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When I was considering a table I estimate that 95% of my parts could be done on a 2'x2'.
However, I came to the conclusion that 25 by 50 (Travel) would be the right size.
I came to this size because 24" was a good size to have the steel vendor shear to and 25" travel lets me cut that and the 50 because I can cut a full 48" long (again shear size) and depending on the shape up to 55" long.
You are not the only crazy one

I finally got smart and decided that I could easily farm-out my small volume and have a cleaner shop at the same time. AND thus, the best size is whatever someone else had!


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Old 11-17-2016, 03:43 PM
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AND thus, the best size is whatever someone else had!


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Yes, if you want to bring in payback I should just be getting everything waterjet cut from my vendor I use for a few parts. I guess it comes down to turn around time. That's why I cut stuff on my mill that really should be plasma cut. I WANT IT NOW!!!

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Old 11-17-2016, 04:02 PM
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I WANT IT NOW!!!
That is why I have a torch and full tanks
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Old 11-17-2016, 06:03 PM
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What every works for you the size of the table can be changed any time .

It is the Plasma machine and the CNC goodies that matter

The ones I work on tend to be just a tad bigger just depends what your cutting
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:18 AM
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Yes you need a good machine and robust table design as that's the secret to cut quality and accuracy. And the price doesn't change much as size goes down since you still need all the same cut, control and movement components. If I had a good big plasma then I could build a good small plasma. Dang.
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:00 PM
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I think Plasma tables end up like crawlers and everything else built these days. If you don't have a 1500 hp twin turbo your ride will suck, it's just not true.

I want a 24" x 48" capacity table, so very similar to E's ideal table.

If once I acquire this table and it is constantly too small or the potential is there to make it financially worth while to have a larger table I will use the small table to build the parts needed for the larger table.

I will also likely build a chain drive table with skate bearings. All the bling is just not needed in my opinion.
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:15 PM
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I think Plasma tables end up like crawlers and everything else built these days. If you don't have a 1500 hp twin turbo your ride will suck, it's just not true.

I want a 24" x 48" capacity table, so very similar to E's ideal table.

If once I acquire this table and it is constantly too small or the potential is there to make it financially worth while to have a larger table I will use the small table to build the parts needed for the larger table.

I will also likely build a chain drive table with skate bearings. All the bling is just not needed in my opinion.
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I say go as big as your wallet will let you. Too many times we've seen or done ourselves buy what ever it maybe, to just enough for the time being and quickly our grow it. I'm in the market for a plasma table at the moment, prefer a 8'X4' but I have limited space because my chassis table is 16'X5' in a 2 1/2 car garage! So 4'x4' is what I have to settle with.
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So I am back looking at tables as I just bought a new place with a bigger shop. I just got a quote for a 4x4 4400 table from Torchmate, with a Lincoln plasma and ready to go, $20K. Yikes, I was shocked. JD2 and Star Labs have decent machines for around $10K without the plasma machine. But I still want a smaller machine, 2x4 or 2x6, crap even 1x6 would be sweet. I don't want to have to handle full sheets of 3/16" or 1/4" plate. Let me buy flat bar and cut my tabs, brackets and trusses from it. The home hobby guy has been left behind by everybody. Now what to do? what to do!
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So I am back looking at tables as I just bought a new place with a bigger shop. I just got a quote for a 4x4 4400 table from Torchmate, with a Lincoln plasma and ready to go, $20K. Yikes, I was shocked. JD2 and Star Labs have decent machines for around $10K without the plasma machine. But I still want a smaller machine, 2x4 or 2x6, crap even 1x6 would be sweet. I don't want to have to handle full sheets of 3/16" or 1/4" plate. Let me buy flat bar and cut my tabs, brackets and trusses from it. The home hobby guy has been left behind by everybody. Now what to do? what to do!
Have you looked at ArcLight Dynamics? Their packages seem a little more reasonably priced than Torchmate because a ton of stuff is standard on them that is optional on Torchmate.

And they're pretty local to you (Oregon). Part of their deal is each table comes with 1/2 day of factory training at their facility. They are at the top of my list when the day comes that I can buy a plasma table.
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Not sure why I didn't list them but, Yes they are at the top of my list also, Bend, OR is ~4hrs from me so not to bad to drive to for picking up the machine and the training.


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Have you looked at ArcLight Dynamics? Their packages seem a little more reasonably priced than Torchmate because a ton of stuff is standard on them that is optional on Torchmate.

And they're pretty local to you (Oregon). Part of their deal is each table comes with 1/2 day of factory training at their facility. They are at the top of my list when the day comes that I can buy a plasma table.
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Have you looked at ArcLight Dynamics? Their packages seem a little more reasonably priced than Torchmate because a ton of stuff is standard on them that is optional on Torchmate.

And they're pretty local to you (Oregon). Part of their deal is each table comes with 1/2 day of factory training at their facility. They are at the top of my list when the day comes that I can buy a plasma table.
Agreed with Arc Light at-least by reputation.
I also found this:
http://gotorch.com/index.html

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Arclight would be my choice also.

Are against building the whole thing yourself?

The guy that came up with the plasma tube notcher that BT now sells is in Oregon, JGS FAb or JGS turbo. He is very sharp with all the electronics for a DIY guy. He knows how to keep it low cost but high performance.He might be able you walk you through it.

I like the small table idea.

Do you do Instagram?

This is one of his sites, I think its pretty dead, but you get the idea. I can contact him if your want.

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I know who JGS by reputation for his amazing builds. I am not ready to pull the trigger yet, just bought a Diversion 180 this week and a 252 earlier this year. Need a few more high priority tools first. I was just starting my research to figure out what direction to go. I really don't want to build one. Seems ironic since I have welders and CNC mills in my shop right!
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Arclight would be my choice also.

Are against building the whole thing yourself?

The guy that came up with the plasma tube notcher that BT now sells is in Oregon, JGS FAb or JGS turbo. He is very sharp with all the electronics for a DIY guy. He knows how to keep it low cost but high performance.He might be able you walk you through it.

I like the small table idea.

Do you do Instagram?

This is one of his sites, I think its pretty dead, but you get the idea. I can contact him if your want.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...tw88qcukg-vO2A
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OK Cool.

Are you near Coos bay?

I'll check out your Instagram.

There seems to be a few RADesigns? Skater stuff?

Mine is 525_Industries

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OK Cool.

Are you near Coos bay?

I'll check out your Instagram.

There seems to be a few RADesigns? Skater stuff?

Mine is 525_Industries
Clarkston, WA, nowhere near Coos Bay, think Idaho, Oregon, Washington corner.
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LOL, I was close! HA!
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