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Old 02-04-2016, 04:39 PM
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titanium

where is the best place to order titanium tubing and plate from for building headers and exhaust components?
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Old 02-05-2016, 12:30 PM
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Both of the suppliers that I have used in the past are no longer doing Ti: Google is your friend at this point.


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Old 02-05-2016, 04:48 PM
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Money to burn???

You might check with guys that are doing Ti work to see where they get it or if they might be willing to sell you some. I see Ti pictures show up in my Instagram feed reasonably often, but I don't know of a source because it's outside my budget right now.
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Old 02-06-2016, 08:19 AM
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Machined a lot of T I.It's going to be tough bending it.Curious as to why?
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Old 02-06-2016, 02:58 PM
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probably not going to bend it. but do pie cuts to get the radius ill need. ive got some friends in racing that always have to have the latest and greatest. the exotic stuff on their cars. so i mentioned titanium headers and they got all excited lol
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Old 02-06-2016, 03:59 PM
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We machined lots of thru hull fittings for our boats.Reel seats for fishing rods.Non corrosive.
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Old 02-06-2016, 04:03 PM
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Friend Don Long(old time drag racing frame builder)built a Ford 9 bolt housing out of TI.
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Old 02-07-2016, 12:28 PM
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Long before I would take a Pie-cut & Welded Ti header, I would run a Stainless Mandrel bent Header and spend the green to take pounds of Unsprung-Weight off.
SS & DOM is more power at could be 200% less cost and the loss of USWeight is likely a larger gain in performance.
On the flip side, if someone is paying me multiple thousands of Dollars for a Ti Header; I'd take the money and tell em what they want to hear!

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Old 02-07-2016, 02:01 PM
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We machined ti billet down to 2% of the original weight when done..030,.090 walls, .090,.125 corner radius.Pain!!Where high strength,low weight is needed on a spacecraft.
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Old 02-08-2016, 04:46 PM
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when a guy running a 410 sprint only has to weigh 1500 lbs after the race and they already have everything as light as they can get on their car, including almost all fasteners on the car being titanium already. any thing they can buy to give them an advantage over the next guy perks their ears up lol. and even if i end up building a few sets for my friends, its not going to be charity work. when some guys yearly racing budget is well over 6 digits, a set of titanium headers costing roughly $1800-$2000 is as much as one of their cylinder heads.

its only about 56% the weight of steel/stainless. and stronger. so from what i have seen a titanium header should be about 1/3 the weight of an identical stainless piece, being able to use a thinner wall tubing and not giving up any strength. of course given the welding is up to par. proper fitment, gas coverage, back purge, and no contamination in the weld.
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Old 02-08-2016, 05:22 PM
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So you want to save weight, makes sense but won't pie cut and welded headers give you issues with flow loss?
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Old 02-08-2016, 05:25 PM
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depends on how many pie cuts you do to get the radius you need. the more sections the smoother the transition. the less you use, the more angular it will be and yes that would impede the flow of the exhaust gases
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Old 02-08-2016, 07:56 PM
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$1800-$2000
What does your $2k cover?

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Old 02-09-2016, 05:10 AM
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Just watched a show called"How it's made".They made a motorcycle exhaust system made out of ti.Looks like it can be bent with a good bender.
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:50 AM
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I ran across the website titaniumjoe.com. They actually list prices...2" x 0.035" wall is $3/inch. I looked after reading an article on how Tim McAmis builds pro mod drag cars, lots of creative uses of titanium there. Maybe someday I'll drop the coin on a little bit of small diameter tube to mess with making brackets and stuff. I understand it's "fun" to drill and tap...
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Old 02-09-2016, 12:44 PM
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I ran across the website titaniumjoe.com. They actually list prices...2" x 0.035" wall is $3/inch. I looked after reading an article on how Tim McAmis builds pro mod drag cars, lots of creative uses of titanium there. Maybe someday I'll drop the coin on a little bit of small diameter tube to mess with making brackets and stuff. I understand it's "fun" to drill and tap...
representative pricing.
http://www.ticonindustries.com/
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Old 02-09-2016, 05:00 PM
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i figured about 800-900 in material cost for a full length small block header. with about a 30 inch primary length and 1.625 diameter tube. and another 900-1100 in labor to build a set. and once a jig(s) are made the time to build a set will go down.

and those are the 2 places i came across for the material as well that were fairly close on price. i just didnt know if you guys had any suppliers you had purchased from already. im prob going to ask my boss at work if our metal suppliers sell titanium too. we get a pretty good price from a couple big suppliers because of how much aluminum and stainless we purchase
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1-5/8" sounds small for a 410. I have 1-7/8" on my 360, and the 410 headers I've worked on are 2".
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For what it is worth and it is free: I think your numbers are way off.

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Old 02-10-2016, 12:26 AM
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I am going to agree with Graham and E here and say that your numbers are off. I have built MS and SS headers and exhaust systems and $2K for custom headers in TI wouldn't even be close to worth it to me. And I come cheap by most standards. Did you include a TI header flange, back purge, filler material (last time I checked the TI filler rod was obscenely expensive), time to build a fixture, and the fact that you should build a fixture out of SS or Aluminum for TI, electric bill, etc... Even if you are cheap like me, at $50 per hour and $900-1100 only gives you 18 to 22 hrs to build a set not counting ALL those other expenses. I have had an honest 40 hours in a complex set of custom SS headers. Unless you want to just have the experience of building a set of TI headers as opposed to making money building a set of TI headers then I would rethink your costs.

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