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Old 02-02-2016, 12:10 PM
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And city water where I live, not so much, it ends about 6 miles from my house.
Yeah, that's definitely a no-go. 600 feet was bad enough.
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Old 02-02-2016, 12:25 PM
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Regarding solar power available, Google is working on an interesting application to estimate solar production capabilities called Project Sunroof. I think it relies on data from satellite imaging. I can put in my address and it maps my roof, estimates my kW production capabilities, and has some financial estimates for RIO on installing solar panels. I wonder if it would help you estimate your potential power capabilities? https://www.google.com/get/sunroof#p=0
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Old 02-02-2016, 06:30 PM
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Bandit,

I checked out that Google site and because I am remote they haven't looked at my area yet. Maybe by the time I am ready to install the solar they will have it up.

That said I did the Amp check that you wanted to see. Now this isn't the motor that will be used when it is hooked up to the solar panels, it's just an AC motor that I happened to have. It is a 1 HP single phase motor that runs at 1725 rpm and when it is free spinning it draws 11.2 amps (actually measured with an amp clamp) at 120 volts, when I hook it to the pump jack via belt it is drawing 11.3 amps at 120 volts. So the load of the pump mechanism is only adding .1 amps of current draw.

Let me know what your engineering self thinks about this.

Thanx,
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Old 02-02-2016, 07:04 PM
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You had to go and make it complicated by using an AC motor. Your ammeter may not give you enough information because while the current may not budge, the power factor changes with load. This is part of the voodoo of alternating current that Edison warned us about. It has to do with inductive/reactive/capacitive loads and some science I quite honestly never fully wrapped my head around, but the short story is that when you measure the current as you have, you are only really able to translate that to the apparent power consumption, not the actual power consumption.

Here is some more information: http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/text...pparent-power/

Does your ammeter have a power reading option for AC? If so use that to measure how many watts are being consumed with and without load.
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Old 02-02-2016, 07:05 PM
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How much does the water column weigh? Can you add some weights to the jack end to simulate the water column? Use a treadmill motor for now? I see free treadmills all the time.

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Old 02-02-2016, 10:33 PM
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Sorry about the AC motor business I try to scrounge up a DC motor to test with.

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Old 02-02-2016, 11:35 PM
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Bandit,

By the way that was a really interesting read and I really wish I knew more about electricity. I read things like that though and my brain has a hard time wrapping around math (it has always been a weak point). I will talk with my pops about it as he is a bit of an electrical/math wizard.

Thanx for the info.
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