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Old 02-28-2007, 09:04 PM
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Arrow JD2 Model3, Pro-tools 105, and JMR Benders Compared

Welcome to what just may be the first unbiased comparison of the JD2 Model3, Pro-tools 105, and JMR Benders. There is a lot of the old Ford vs Chevy...
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By rdn2blazer on 02-09-2008, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TUBETEK View Post
I bought the m-tech bender, but I think its a knock off of the others. No special tooling on the pins, no laser on the degree wheel just a plain old bender that works everytime I use it.


I have the M-Tech NE-5 bender and I took a 1/4 in "I" stamp letter and stamped between each deg mark for a 1 deg reading. Then I took a Orange paint pin and painted each mark then wiped off the flat surface leaving the paint it the low stamp mark. Shows up great. I painted my deg wheel flat black first. I like my M-Tech but I just wish it was a bit more precision made. It seems kinda sloppy to a certain degree, But being a machinist I tend to be critical on stuff like this.

The ratchet arm flexes upward while bending 2" X .125 wall DOM from the swarf or scurf from the plasma cut. Its not a square cut as if it were machined. That the kind of detail Im talking about, but for the most Im happy with it. Just REALLY REALLY want to do a hydro conversion.
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By TUBETEK on 02-10-2008, 09:44 AM
Yuuuup I know what you mean about the hydro conversion. If I'm making something for someone I tell them they get to be the hydraulic ram and have a part in bending their own stuff. When I make stuff for my car I use a five foot long peice of 2" pipe to run the ratchet. My bender as well flexes up when I bend 2"x.120 wall 4130.
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By hammerhands on 02-19-2008, 04:04 AM
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Keith, everything is well told, a really clean product review. Like many others, I had been doing my countless hours of homework on this subject for a few months with very little to come away with from a well laid out comparison. I made a $2,900.00 investment today on my pic of the three! I'll post my claims after i receive shipment and have some info for input. Based on your finds, they all have quality selling points. Everyone will always feel compelled on their personal opinion, for what rates best. The main ingredient of this however can only come from accurate info like this, Thanks
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By drywaterbm1 on 02-28-2008, 01:02 AM
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I have only used/seen the JD2, here's my $.02
1.) I bought this because it was cheap, easy to use, and readily available - no waiting for dies or parts. The JD2 has bent tons (literally) of 1.5 and 1.75 tubing in my shop, and I'm still to cheap to go hydraulic. To date, the problems have been:
2.) The sleeves over the bolts wear out after 3-400 bends. If you don't catch it in time, you scar up or bend the mounting bolts.
3.) The pointer is a real pain to read, and, nothing sucks worse than getting to the 4th or 5th bend in a tube and snagging the cheap pointer setup - be careful and trim that bad boy to 1/4" past the wheel.
4.) Cancel your gym membership if you are bending .250. It's not as bad as you would think; but, I'm 6'3" 210 and it wears me out after a few big bends.
5.) Don't bother ordering the stand or the breaker bar. You will want to build a breaker that has a 30* or more offset; and, if you are getting the bender chances are you can and will build a more robust stand suited to your height (6'3" = bending back, not tubing!)
To sum up, I would buy it again. This machine paid itself off long ago; and, continues to see extensive use in the shop. I really enjoy the fact that it is the cheapest option going, and I still "got what I paid for".
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BTW: I'm building a shop press exclusively for flared holes. It will be shaped as an "F" - I want to be able to flare the center of 3'6" material. Does anyone know of a good (cheap) hydraulic cylinder with 2"-4" of stroke that would fit the bill? Manual is cool, and actually prefered - simple=no problems on saturday nite or sunday morning! TIA
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By paranoid56 on 04-03-2008, 06:30 PM
Thanks for the great review. will getting one shortly
Shane
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By 4x4high on 04-09-2008, 02:01 AM
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I'm about to make a purchase on a bender in the next couple weeks. I have been searching around for what's out there and after being able to read a comparison i have definately made my decision. I will be purchasing the Pro Tools 105HD bender package.
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By curleysracecars on 05-27-2008, 11:43 PM
Ive searched quickly online, but couldnt find the answer, and I know the topic has been beat to death all over the internet, but are the JD2 and Pro Tools dies interchangeable?
Im looking at buying a new hydraulic bender off eBay, but it was designed for the JD2 dies. My plan was to buy the new bender, keep my dies, and sell my Pro Tools bender, but obviously this wont work if the dies wont interchange.
Thanks in advance to all help!
Kyle
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By 4x4high on 05-27-2008, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by curleysracecars View Post
Ive searched quickly online, but couldnt find the answer, and I know the topic has been beat to death all over the internet, but are the JD2 and Pro Tools dies interchangeable?
Im looking at buying a new hydraulic bender off eBay, but it was designed for the JD2 dies. My plan was to buy the new bender, keep my dies, and sell my Pro Tools bender, but obviously this wont work if the dies wont interchange.
Thanks in advance to all help!
Kyle
Nope, not interchangeable.

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Backing block pin holes on the Pro-tools 105 and JMR Benders are .125 apart and .375 apart on the Model3, combine this with different drive pin locations on the dies and this means that dies are not interchangeable between JD and either Pro-Tools or JMR. But the dies from Pro-tools and JMR are interchangeable.
This came from the review that Keith did on here about the JD2, Pro Tools, and JMR bender.
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By curleysracecars on 05-28-2008, 12:12 AM
Damn, that sucks. Thanks man! What do you think I could get for a Pro Tools 105, 1.625" x 6" CLR die set, 1.125" die set, and .875" die set. Along with degree ring, and handle??
Thanks!
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By 4x4high on 05-28-2008, 12:17 AM
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Damn, that sucks. Thanks man! What do you think I could get for a Pro Tools 105, 1.625" x 6" CLR die set, 1.125" die set, and .875" die set. Along with degree ring, and handle??
Thanks!
I really have no idea. I'm just getting into this myself. I just bought a bender and JMR tube notcher and just today bought Bend Tech EZ3D. I've yet to build a bender cart. I'm going hydro so i want the flexability to move the bender around without having to bolt the thing to my garage floor. I doubt you'll have much trouble selling the dies though at almost full price. You might want to post in the for sale section and make sure you also let people know what the degree of bend it is for IE: 120* or 240*
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By Jeep07 on 09-30-2008, 08:47 PM
Could you take a measurement on the 3 dies?

I'm interested to know the difference in the measurements between the different dies.

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