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Old 06-08-2010, 04:41 PM
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One thing to watch out for if you plan on chopping the top, is leg room.

I've got the seats down, like 3.5" and back almost 5"

Ends up cutting out the step up to the cargo area and reworking it.



So I called a local spring shop trying to get an idea of what it was going to run to get the new front leafs dearched, and got kind of a weird answer.

They told me it would be $1.65 per lb to re/dearch.

So is that the amount of pressure it will take, or based off the spring weight???

I read some info on figuring spring rate on leafs, and it was something along the lines of the amount of weight to move the leaf/leafs 1" in height.

I've got to think that the main leaf by itself can't be that bad to reshape.

Any one know more about this??

I'm a little worried that having them dearched will cost 3-4 times as much as they cost.

If I can't find out any more, I'm going to take them over to the spring shop Friday and see what they tell me. Maybe I can get a better idea if I'm face to face.

-Jeff
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:21 PM
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cool jeep I bought a 75 DJ5 a few years back to build into a drag racer. I wanted an emissions exempt, light weight car. Everything else I found was way out of my price range and needed too much modding. Then I saw an add for a postal Jeep and it hit me, it's perfect for what I want.

So far I haven't done anything to it except tear it apart a little to see what I'm starting with. I've also been collecting parts, I got an aluminum fuel cell, some bucket seats, a custom steering column, and just recently a 401! I will reuse the TF727 that it came with along with the D44 with 3.08 LSD.

have you seen the youtube video of the postal jeep drag racing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXyec7Pm9kQ
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:12 AM
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J10,

Yah, I've come across that vid before, there is another one with a small block DJ out at some sand dunes that is pretty cool.


Since I've got no time at home to do actual work on the PJ, I've been searching the interwebz for more postal Jeep info.

Found this doing a random Google image search.



It looks a little odd with the front axle way out in front.

This next one was on a HAMB thread about hot rodded Jeeps.

There were only these 2 small in progress pics.





Looks like maybe a CJ-3????

The front axle looks pretty close to stock postion, but that motor is HIGH, the high rise dual quad intake is a little over the top.

Last one was interesting.....




Again with the high rise manifold. This one has definately been chopped, including the doors. It looks a little lower, but I think still too narrow.

All in all a clean little rod, as far as Postal Jeeps go.

-Jeff
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:26 PM
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I believe that is the price per pound of the weight of the springs. At least that's how it's done up here.

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One thing to watch out for if you plan on chopping the top, is leg room.

I've got the seats down, like 3.5" and back almost 5"

Ends up cutting out the step up to the cargo area and reworking it.



So I called a local spring shop trying to get an idea of what it was going to run to get the new front leafs dearched, and got kind of a weird answer.

They told me it would be $1.65 per lb to re/dearch.

So is that the amount of pressure it will take, or based off the spring weight???


I read some info on figuring spring rate on leafs, and it was something along the lines of the amount of weight to move the leaf/leafs 1" in height.

I've got to think that the main leaf by itself can't be that bad to reshape.

Any one know more about this??

I'm a little worried that having them dearched will cost 3-4 times as much as they cost.

If I can't find out any more, I'm going to take them over to the spring shop Friday and see what they tell me. Maybe I can get a better idea if I'm face to face.

-Jeff
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Old 06-10-2010, 10:42 PM
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J10,

Yah, I've come across that vid before, there is another one with a small block DJ out at some sand dunes that is pretty cool.


Since I've got no time at home to do actual work on the PJ, I've been searching the interwebz for more postal Jeep info.

Found this doing a random Google image search.



It looks a little odd with the front axle way out in front.

This next one was on a HAMB thread about hot rodded Jeeps.

There were only these 2 small in progress pics.





Looks like maybe a CJ-3????

The front axle looks pretty close to stock postion, but that motor is HIGH, the high rise dual quad intake is a little over the top.

Last one was interesting.....




Again with the high rise manifold. This one has definately been chopped, including the doors. It looks a little lower, but I think still too narrow.

All in all a clean little rod, as far as Postal Jeeps go.

-Jeff
I have seen these also. the last one really looks cool, but I bet it is a handful to handle with that much power and a short wheelbase and being top heavy even with it being chopped. But what do I know, I'm new at this. I don't want to speak out of turn. Cool though just the same.
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Old 06-12-2010, 08:32 PM
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I've got a few pics too, that's how I found your build was a google search.











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Old 06-15-2010, 01:56 PM
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I'm going to get the new front main leafs from the spring shop this afternoon.

It turns out the price was based on the physical weight of the leafs, so good call Captainfab.

Also having them rebushing the main eye's, and am going to grab new center pins, leaf clamps, and hopefully teflon sliders.

More info as soon as I get them picked up.


-Jeff
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:48 PM
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Will having them de-arched make them longer? Or will the shackles just make up for this?
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Old 06-16-2010, 10:14 AM
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Will having them de-arched make them longer? Or will the shackles just make up for this?
Jmasterinc, yah dearching did lengthen them.

But because they're not a direct replacement, and I'm refabbing the mounts for the wider springs and stretch in wheel base, it doesn't have much of an impact.

I don't think.......

I was thinking of using some boomarang style shackles if it looked like there was going to be an interferance problem.

So, got the main leafs back.




SO STOKED!!!!!

I got the 2 main leafs dearched to flat, picked up 4 new spring clamps, a new set of center pins, and 20 plastic/teflon leaf sliders.


All for less than $50.

I was a little worried about the cost of the sliders. I had been looking around online and was seeing like $4 each....

I asked the guy what they ran before I committed to a quantity, his response, " they usually run .50 cents to $1 each."


The price break down was, $40 for the springs and $10 for every thing else.


So, next up is reassembling the front leafs and getting them bolted up to the front axle.

-Jeff
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:04 PM
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Lookin brand new!
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:13 AM
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Thanks, Jmasters



Got a bit done last night.

Was too cold and damp to paint so, the brother in-law and I assembled the leaf packs.

Did a little scotch brite work first, got some new sliders popped on, and layed out the pack.



I got through the first one pretty quickly, I had already cleaned up the leafs on that pack.

As I finished the first one, my brother in-law found his way out to the shop and I talked him in to assembleing the second one, (and cleaning up the leafs) for me so I could snap a few pics.





All in all, took about 45 minutes to assemble a new set of leafs.



They turned out with just a little bit of arch, which I think should put them close to flat with the V8 weight on them.



I had the spring shop press new main eye bushings.




And we inspected, lubed, and reassembled the shackle eye bushings, as well as installed new spring clamps.



Up next is a run to the steel shop for material for the new spring hangers and some polyurethane bushings to be able to hang the new set up.

Hope to make some good progress this weekend.

-Jeff
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:00 PM
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:37 AM
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Thanks E,


Moving on, I was kinda dragging in the PJ.

Been sick a bit and just general sucky weather had me not very motivated to get anything done, plus heading up to a friends wedding last weekend. (Good times)


But means I didn't get anything done on the PJ.

Well, I think I've made up for that this weekend.

One of my brother in-law's came over and gave me a hand.

Mostly I did the grinder cutting and then had him use the jig saw for the final cuts while I snapped some pics.



Hopefully it's apparent that we finally started on the notch cut outs. That fuzzy/dusty line on the right side is dirt falling out of the frame as he cut.




Pretty straight forward process, I used the grinder with a cut off wheel to follow the straight lines of the notch side plates in all 3 flats on both sides, and then the brother in-law would follow up with the jig saw to follow the radius.

Followed up with the PS.



An idea of the dirt in the frame.



An overall shot.




Here is a better pic of the cut out from the side. I think that there is plenty of beef to support the notch cut out.




In addition to cleaning out the frame rails, I checked my weld penetration on the side plates. Plenty of penetration, I'm feeling good about adding the circle cut outs for the extra weld surface.


There's more to come.....


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Old 06-20-2010, 12:27 PM
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looks like plento o beef....keep up the good work...gonna be sweet!
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Old 06-20-2010, 10:15 PM
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Teaser pic, until tomorrow.......





-Jeff
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Old 06-21-2010, 10:14 AM
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So, continuing on....


With the notches cut out, I used the cut out to rough form the bottom plate, and clamped it up in there.




Since I now had a notch, I couldn't resist mocking up the new front springs.



And with a old stock YJ shackle I was able to look at the shackle set up.





Unfortunatley, the stock shackle hangers were still in the way. So, out came the drill and grinder. Drilled out the 2, 1/2" rivets per hanger, cut the welds and broke out the BFH.





I was pretty happy that they came off without any real drama.



And off with the PS mount.



I decided to tackle the new front crossmember next. It was pretty straight forward.

Measure twice, cut once, and then measure some more and melt it in place.





And one more, showing the motor clearance.



More to come soon....


-Jeff
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:14 PM
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I was making good progress, so I moved on to finishing up the notches.

With the bottom plates, formed roughly, I cleaned up the notches themselves and started welding.



Again, not too many in progress pics.

But what I ended up doing was welding both bottom plates into the notches, and then trimming them to the same extra length, before finally pounding them flat to the frame rail bottom and welding.





Other things I got checked off the list this weekend were, fixing the steering box mount and getting it and the PS frame brace back in place.

I've got the materials to build new main eye leaf brackets and new U-bolt plates, so those will be up in the near future.

But the BEST part of the weekend was Sunday afternoon when I was finally able to lower the PJ down to level and roll the tires into their approximate new locations.







And even though it's still missing some major stuff, I am LOVING the look so far.

It look really low and mean.

I also started thinking about weither or not to add front fenders.

If I do, they will be tube flat fenders. I think......

The stock DJ/CJ-5 fenders are a little nerdy for this much hotrod.


Finally, here's an idea of the hood to tire clearance sitting level.



That was the total of the weekends progress. Pretty good.

More later....


-Jeff
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:18 PM
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Thanks for making me feel bad about sitting on my ass...

Looks great man and I love the progress rate... you're hauling ass and still doing good looking work. Congrats man.
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Old 06-21-2010, 11:11 PM
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that thing is looking bad*** for sure. keep it up
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Old 06-22-2010, 10:14 AM
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No Prob, Flatline, that's what I'm here for

J/K

Thanks for the kind words.

I'm actually using the thread to keep me motivated to keep working.

I've got to make a few sets of brackets before I can make any more big advances.
-spring main eye and shackle brackets
-new u-bolt plates
-new E fan mounts, old ghetto ones don't fit with the front notches

Then I can probably put it back on the ground agian.

More to come.....

-Jeff
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