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Chocflip201
02-19-2009, 02:31 AM
So I'm starting to get a little heavier in this fabrication stuff and I've used a metal bandsaw before and loved it and I want one of my own... I wouldn't use it say as much as a full-blown fabrication shop would but I would say I would use it enough to justify having one.. So that brings me to the HarborFreight Bandsaw.. anyone used one? what do you guys think? the price is right if its a decent quality product, I've bought powertools from them before and granted yes I know they don't last as long as the big box brands but what do you think? should I stick to the chop-saw?

Harbor-Freight Metal Bandsaw (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=93762)

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/93700-93799/93762.gif

cummins6speed
02-19-2009, 03:40 AM
I have talked to a few people that have that band saw who use it all the time and love it. They say they use it way more than their chop saw

miteclgst
02-19-2009, 05:52 AM
I have talked to a few people that have that band saw who use it all the time and love it. They say they use it way more than their chop saw

A friend has this saw at his garage. I can honestly say that any time I need to make a cut I usually end up at the band saw (we have chops saws, plasma cutters and torches). It seems like one of the few tools sold by harbor freight that works well. The blade it comes with is very low quality (looses teeth quite easily). We got a blade from grainger (they can be hard to find, odd size) and it cuts like a champ now. The clamping system isn't of the highest quality but it works for the most part. The provided plate to convert it to a vertical bandsaw is a little thin and leaves a bit to be desired. I don't feel that you will be dissapointed if you pick it up and keep in mind that it's a $200 band saw.

robs88yj
02-19-2009, 07:08 AM
With a good blade that saw is great. Like metioned above the clamping system and the table are a little on the weak side but are very usable. I like the set-it and forget it method of cutting. Have a box under the blade area to catch debris and clean-up is a breeze. Wait for the coupons or a sale.

Chocflip201
02-19-2009, 07:22 AM
Wait for the coupons or a sale.

I like your thinkin :grinpimp:

Okay thanks everyone for your input :beer:

Looks like I'll be gettin a new bandsaw when the 15% off coupon makes its round again.

Ladderbar
02-19-2009, 08:45 AM
Invest in good blades, they cost more up front but pay for them self going away.

Izzy
02-19-2009, 09:07 AM
Yep, get it with a coupon and you really can't beat it for the $$$. I had my switch go out on me about a month ago. Ace Hardware carries a replacement for ~$4.00

Do yourself a favor and retap and replace the angle hardware with some quality pieces. You'll save yourself some frustration in the long run. There's a yahoo group out there dedicated to modding these things to death if you need nuts on accuracy.

Dieseldoctor250
02-19-2009, 10:37 AM
I don't know what you're working on, but I bought a Portable band saw and I use it 3 times more than my big jet band saw. I've got a milwalkee It works great, probably about the same cash as that HF stationary

Chocflip201
02-19-2009, 10:40 AM
errr.. i dunno how I feel about portable ones.. I think I'd rather have a stationary.... just my personaly preferrence though I guess..

GN4WHLN
02-19-2009, 01:19 PM
I have been thinking about getting this one too. I was also looking at some of the saws at Sears for comparison and noticed what looked exactly like the HF saw but painted black and about $150 more. I have heard the HF blades suck, so I was thinking of getting a blade welder and buying bulk blade. Anyone know if that is a good way to do it?

CDriver
02-19-2009, 03:27 PM
My HF band saw works good after setting it up. Unlike everybody else, I had good luck with HF blade that came with it.

Ladderbar
02-19-2009, 04:10 PM
I have heard the HF blades suck, so I was thinking of getting a blade welder and buying bulk blade. Anyone know if that is a good way to do it?[/QUOTE]

This is what I do. Well worth it.

cummins6speed
02-19-2009, 04:11 PM
I don't know what you're working on, but I bought a Portable band saw and I use it 3 times more than my big jet band saw. I've got a milwalkee It works great, probably about the same cash as that HF stationary

Porta-bands are nice but usually the bigger stationary ones can cut wider stock plus you have the vise for more accurate straight and angled cuts

nhrocker
02-19-2009, 06:29 PM
Check around local stores to see if anyone carries them. I found a shop 20 minutes from my house that has them in stock. Looks identical, just a different paint job. They actually have a lower price than HF, plus I don't have to worry about shipping.

My tax checks are on the way and that's one of the things I'm looking at getting. I've used one of them before and love them for most of the stuff I work on.

miteclgst
02-19-2009, 09:12 PM
Our flyer just came out today and they are advertised at 179.99

shaggy10000
02-19-2009, 09:21 PM
How loud are they? I cant really recall running a dry band saw. Do they squeal? Specifically the HF one mentioned. Maybe im getting old but i retired the chop saw because i cant stand the noise. Especially when i have to use it alot. I dont think my neighbors care a whole lot for me either.

miteclgst
02-19-2009, 09:24 PM
The one I have been using was pretty quiet. We have been liberal with the oil so as to increase the life span of the blade but I haven't noticed any squealing.

Chris64
02-19-2009, 09:54 PM
I have the Grizzly equivalant. I would get a Grizzly first and I think they actually improved on it a bit with the newest model. Although they probably are identical - it seems like the Grizzly parts are a little better quality than HF.

It cuts great and is extremely quiet. I would never cut metal with an abrassive blade on a chop saw again.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0622

Chocflip201
02-19-2009, 11:50 PM
I have the Grizzly equivalant. I would get a Grizzly first and I think they actually improved on it a bit with the newest model. Although they probably are identical - it seems like the Grizzly parts are a little better quality than HF.

It cuts great and is extremely quiet. I would never cut metal with an abrassive blade on a chop saw again.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0622

even with a 3/4 hp motor instead of the 1hp? plus with freight that kinda kills the price when comparing to HF.. our local HF carries them in-store.

cummins6speed
02-20-2009, 12:37 AM
Plus with the 20% coupon you can get the HF one for $200

Scamblicon
02-20-2009, 01:10 AM
I bought the HF unit about 10 years ago and it has taken quite a beating - a lot of 3/16" thick up to 6" wide steel and it's still fine. I bought the HF unit because the motor had the highest HP at the time compared to the other units available and I didn't like the noise of an abrasive chop saw. The nice thing with these units is that in the vertical position - there is a little table that comes with it(at least it did 10 years ago) and I cut all kinds of stuff with it - wood, PVC, rubber body mounts etc. I did weld a little 3/8" plate on the bottom of the saddle so I could C clamp material in front of the blade for more stability. Thanks for the info on the Yahoo modification group.

Chris64
02-20-2009, 01:54 AM
even with a 3/4 hp motor instead of the 1hp? plus with freight that kinda kills the price when comparing to HF.. our local HF carries them in-store.

Yea I didn't notice the motor had changed or was different. That Grizzly is the newer version of mine. I just looked at mine and it's 1/2HP. I never noticed that spec. so OK, I have no argument there - HF seems all around better.

That said - 1/2 HP has always been fine for me. The biggest thing I've cut through was solid 2x6 6061 and it had no problems.

Hillbilly
02-20-2009, 11:36 PM
Since we're on the HF bandsaw topic..does anyone have a link to reasonably priced replacement motor for this saw? I've finnally burnt the O.E.M. motor up. I've had this saw since 2005. I'm not displeased with it, because i've truely got my moneies worth out of it. :bounce2: We use the lil red saw in my shop almost everday, :eyemouth:

Izzy
02-21-2009, 12:56 AM
does anyone have a link to reasonably priced replacement motor for this saw? I've finnally burnt the O.E.M. motor up. I've had this saw since 2005.

Are you sure it's the motor? I just went through this 2 weeks ago. Thought I burned the motor but it ended up being the switch contacts. I'd pull the switch, jump the wires and be sure ;)

rdn2blazer
02-21-2009, 09:58 AM
I have heard the HF blades suck, so I was thinking of getting a blade welder and buying bulk blade. Anyone know if that is a good way to do it?

This is what I do. Well worth it.[/QUOTE]


They DO suck. I but Starrett blades for my little say similar to the one pictured. I use the HELL out of my little saw. I also have a PorterCable Port-a-band and it's AWESOME. I use either depending on what I'm cutting. I had the PorterCable first, but now I mostly use the HF saw.

Ladderbar
02-21-2009, 10:05 AM
I use the Starrett and also Morese (spelling?) A friend of mine sells both and they both are an excellent inveastment.

dezertracerdude
02-21-2009, 02:26 PM
So I'm starting to get a little heavier in this fabrication stuff and I've used a metal bandsaw before and loved it and I want one of my own... I wouldn't use it say as much as a full-blown fabrication shop would but I would say I would use it enough to justify having one.. So that brings me to the HarborFreight Bandsaw.. anyone used one? what do you guys think? the price is right if its a decent quality product, I've bought powertools from them before and granted yes I know they don't last as long as the big box brands but what do you think? should I stick to the chop-saw?

Harbor-Freight Metal Bandsaw (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=93762)

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/93700-93799/93762.gif

I've got that saw and it works fine just get a better blade 641/2 "

nhrocker
02-21-2009, 08:01 PM
Well, since this thread had me thinking about a band saw, I finally went out to buy the one I had been looking at locally. Turns out they have a different one with different specs now, but I bought it anyway. $222 later it was in the back seat of my car (they even loaded it for me :biggrin: )

It's a Shop Fox W1715 - 3/4 HP Metal Cutting Bandsaw.
http://www.woodstockint.com/Products/w1715/

Has a 2 year warranty. I was told that its made by the same company that makes the Grizzly units. The Grizzly's have some differences, but for the most part are the same thing. They're only available direct though, where the Shop Fox's are sold by distributors.

Initial thoughts: It looks identical to the HF unit, just with a 3/4 HP motor instead of the 1 HP, and no classy red paint job. I've only unpacked it so far, haven't set it up yet. It was pretty well packaged compared to other stuff I've gotten there. Once I get it up and running I'll be sure to let you know how it performs.

cummins6speed
02-21-2009, 08:31 PM
Here is my favorite thread, some great work done with the HF bandsaw: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115058&highlight=band+saw*

Hillbilly
02-21-2009, 11:19 PM
Are you sure it's the motor? I just went through this 2 weeks ago. Thought I burned the motor but it ended up being the switch contacts. I'd pull the switch, jump the wires and be sure ;)

Oh it's definitely the motor. How can I be so sure you ask? Well my helper turned his back on the little saw and left it unattended, and when I looked up it had flames coming out the case :pissed: So I'm most positive that I'll be hunting a replacement motor for it or another saw.

rdn2blazer
02-22-2009, 12:30 AM
Here is my favorite thread, some great work done with the HF bandsaw: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115058&highlight=band+saw*


I like the yellow saw but that bumper is the most over complicated over fabbed rediculous bumper I have ever seen. What a huge waste of time. I see all those tac tac tac welds everywhere. If'e he's happy with it cool, I guess.

One with power tools does not a fabricator make.

cummins6speed
02-22-2009, 01:35 AM
It is a little overboard, but for a bumper that is made almost completely with a bandsaw it is pretty cool,

wyoming9
02-22-2009, 05:08 AM
If you never used a band saw, you will love it right there with sliced bread.

If you work at a place and use a industrial one you will most likely not be happy.

The same can be said about a lot of tools.:grinpimp:

nhrocker
02-22-2009, 02:45 PM
If you never used a band saw, you will love it right there with sliced bread.

That's brilliant! I can use it to slice bread too!:bounce2:

Chocflip201
02-23-2009, 09:26 PM
Well my opportunity knocked a little earlier than expected, but thats okay it was worth it... when I woke up this morning my dad asked me "do you need anything from harborfreight? I have a coupon I got in my email..." .. well I thought about it, and the coupon expired today.. and so then decided I was going to go get one.. well low and behold it was my lucky day... the saw was on sale in store today for $199, normally $249... well with the 20% off coupon it came to $160... nothin like getting a bandsaw almost a hundred dollars off :thefinger:


Heres some pics.. The camera makes it look pink.. its not.. its red.... FORGIVE THE MESS! .. it is where all the tools have accumulated over the past few days and I will clean it all up tomorrow I was just excited about getting the saw for so cheap..

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8839/pict0035g.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6277/pict0034d.jpg


I didn't have anything that I really needed cut right now so I just had a peice of 1.25" square tubing laying around.. so I made my first test cut ever... and as you can see it is about half the thickness of the quarter.. I'm sure I could go thinner, but I didn't really care that much to try I just thought it was cool... try that with your abrasive chopsaw suckafish!
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5751/pict0036z.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6830/pict0038.jpg

Chocflip201
02-23-2009, 09:36 PM
Pretty nice camera right? :grinpimp:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7830/18583370.png

CaptainAirTime
02-24-2009, 01:10 AM
Pretty nice camera right? :grinpimp:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7830/18583370.png

If you like pink saws :thefinger:

Methinks a band saw is in my very near future!

Chocflip201
02-24-2009, 01:19 AM
If you like pink saws :thefinger:

Methinks a band saw is in my very near future!

Its red I swear I swear! haha its the flash... it really looks like the color of the one in the picture in post #1 in real life.

cummins6speed
02-24-2009, 01:52 AM
How come I didn't get a damn coupon? Last time I got a 20% off was in January and they weren't having a sale

Chocflip201
02-24-2009, 01:59 AM
How come I didn't get a damn coupon? Last time I got a 20% off was in January and they weren't having a sale

Dunno this is my first time I've ever visually seen a 20 % off one.. I've heard of them out there... but usually I get the 15%... so I thought I better take advantage of the last day of the coupons lifespan... the coupon was only good from 2/19-2/23 and it was one you print off an email... but my dad got it, not me so I dunno.

cummins6speed
02-24-2009, 03:28 AM
Dunno this is my first time I've ever visually seen a 20 % off one.. I've heard of them out there... but usually I get the 15%... so I thought I better take advantage of the last day of the coupons lifespan... the coupon was only good from 2/19-2/23 and it was one you print off an email... but my dad got it, not me so I dunno.

Too bad for me I guess. Had I known they had a sale going on and a coupon floating around I would have jumped all over that. $160 is a score! I need one of them handy dandy band saws

Monstero
02-24-2009, 11:32 AM
Too bad for me I guess. Had I known they had a sale going on and a coupon floating around I would have jumped all over that. $160 is a score! I need one of them handy dandy band saws

Just had to google Harbor freight coupon and you would find it on one of those links, then print it off.I went and picked one up last night too....170 w/tax.

Chocflip201
02-24-2009, 12:44 PM
Yeah I guess technically I didn't score it for quite $160 because I purchased the 2 year extended protection plan so that if anything fails they replace it...

shaggy10000
02-24-2009, 04:31 PM
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/emails/809/RetailZ/809_retailz.html

shaggy10000
02-24-2009, 04:35 PM
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/html/wkend0302/usa_cpnsave.html
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/common/displayPage.do?pageFile=buynow.html
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/common/displayCoupon.do?week=909&campaign=Retailb&page=909_retailb.html&r=0000_00000&cust=00000000000&keycode=0000

cummins6speed
02-24-2009, 05:41 PM
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/emails/809/RetailZ/809_retailz.html


Shaggy, you are awesome! Thanks for posting that. Im off to HF to see if they are on sale here:bounce2:

shaggy10000
02-24-2009, 05:46 PM
Shaggy, you are awesome! Thanks for posting that. Im off to HF to see if they are on sale here:bounce2:

I couldnt find a specific sale on the band saw, but let me know what you turn up. Im heading down saturday.

cummins6speed
02-24-2009, 05:57 PM
I have never seen it on sale online but these guys got it on sale. They often have different (better) prices in the store

nhrocker
02-24-2009, 09:00 PM
Choc, awesome deal on the saw! So what's the first project for it?

Still no power at my shop, so mines just sitting there collecting dust already...:rolleyes:

Chocflip201
02-24-2009, 09:20 PM
First project will be cutting the sleeves for my frame stretch on my crawler :biggrin: and its 3/16" thick so we'll see just how good this saw is.

cummins6speed
02-24-2009, 10:54 PM
Giving you guys an update- Went to HF today to buy the bandsaw with the coupon shaggy posted and they are still on sale for $199. Unfortunately they didn't have one in stock but the coupon is good till the 6th of March and the sale good till the 9th of March

shaggy10000
02-24-2009, 11:12 PM
Giving you guys an update- Went to HF today to buy the bandsaw with the coupon shaggy posted and they are still on sale for $199. Unfortunately they didn't have one in stock but the coupon is good till the 6th of March and the sale good till the 9th of March

Effin SWEET! Im going to get one this weekend and set it right next to my new american made lathe. Live in fear little chinese saw. It'l be like one of those evolution charts you see with the monkey changing stages to human. Except this will show from where we were to where things went to hell.

Ya im in a mood.:biggrin:

Chocflip201
02-24-2009, 11:35 PM
Wow I ask about the quality of a product and then next thing you know everyone and there dog is buying one! :Circle: Follow the leader! haha jk.. Way to support Harbor Freight! lol

Chocflip201
02-25-2009, 12:00 AM
So about the blade... What do you guys usually use for replacement? (where and part number.) looking at some on the Grainger website as posted earlier... pretty much everything I cut will be mild-steel, DOM, and some aluminum sheet... so I would assume about 14-18 tpi blade...

How about this one?
Matrix II 5' 4.5" x .5" 10-14 varying TPI Bi-Metal Blade (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4WB86)--$29

Or maybe
Matrix II 5' 4.5" x .5" 14-18 varying TPI Bi-Metal Blade (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4WB87)-- $23

Or on the cheaper side,
Morse 5' 4.5" x .5" 18 TPI Blade (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4WU12) --$13

Or maybe a higher tpi?
Morse 5' 4.5" x .5" 24 TPI Blade (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4WU13?BaseItem=4WU12) --$13

Dunno what do you guys think is right for me..
I don't mind paying the extra money for the slightly more expensive blades if its worth the money in http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7200/koalabearclimbingtree.jpghttp://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6407/424pxocracharplussignsv.jpghttp://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8780/dlt.jpg

cummins6speed
02-25-2009, 01:51 AM
How much is the extanded warranty for it? I can't decide if I should get it or not

CaptainAirTime
02-25-2009, 01:54 AM
I would say no to extended waranty just on principle. One of the biggest money makers left alive today. better than loan sharking.

Chocflip201
02-25-2009, 04:00 AM
it was like $25 and they said it covers any part on it no matter what for 2 years...

Rokcrler
02-25-2009, 08:22 PM
Saw this one online but not available in the store.
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=37151
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/37100-37199/37151.gif

Only one of these coming in, got a raincheck at 199.99 and verified the 20% coupon was valid..should have my new toy friday.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/93700-93799/93762.gif

Thanks Shaggy for the links :beer:

I wonder if i can warranty the original blade under warranty :grinpimp:

cummins6speed
02-25-2009, 09:42 PM
it was like $25 and they said it covers any part on it no matter what for 2 years...

Did yours come with a table attachment for use in the vertical position?

Chocflip201
02-25-2009, 09:46 PM
Did yours come with a table attachment for use in the vertical position?

sure did

cummins6speed
02-25-2009, 09:52 PM
sure did

Awesome, I will be picking mine up on friday. The store here in Sacramento said they weren't getting one on their next shipment and by the time they would get one in if they ordered it the coupon would be expired so i called the Vallejo store and they had one left so they are holding onto it for me:bounce2:

Have you decided on what blade you are going to go with?

Chocflip201
02-25-2009, 10:00 PM
nope noone has said anything about any of them. I have however noticed that after making 2 cuts on that .125 wall 1.25" sq. tubing, the oem blade did have teeth missing. The people weren't lying when they said that the stock blade is junk.

Monstero
02-26-2009, 12:07 AM
The Stock blade is junk. Made 5 cuts with it today and pop it went.....broke...so I went to Northern Tool and got the Bi-Metal 64 1/2" 14tpi blade. Will see how it does tomorrow. it says its made in the USA and so that is already one advantage it has over the factory blade. Was only 14$. Will report on it later.

If you google Band Saw Mods you will have tons of links as well to show what various people have done with this saw to make it better for not that much money.

cummins6speed
02-26-2009, 12:15 AM
If you google Band Saw Mods you will have tons of links as well to show what various people have done with this saw to make it better for not that much money.

Thanks for the tip!:beer:

cummins6speed
02-26-2009, 12:26 AM
For those looking for a new motor this might be a cheap solution:

http://www.emotorstore.com/productdetail.asp_Q_catID_E_7_A_subCatID_E_252_A_p roductID_E_267_A_skuID_E_26075

CaptainAirTime
02-26-2009, 01:24 AM
For those looking for a new motor this might be a cheap solution:

http://www.emotorstore.com/productdetail.asp_Q_catID_E_7_A_subCatID_E_252_A_p roductID_E_267_A_skuID_E_26075

is 1/3HP enough? isn't the stocker 3/4 or 1 HP? My local junk tool store sells a 1/3HP saw similar(same?) to the one pictured earier, but I wrote it off due to the substantially smaller motor. Maybe it IS viable?

cummins6speed
02-26-2009, 01:43 AM
is 1/3HP enough? isn't the stocker 3/4 or 1 HP? My local junk tool store sells a 1/3HP saw similar(same?) to the one pictured earier, but I wrote it off due to the substantially smaller motor. Maybe it IS viable?

http://grizzly.com/products/Motor-3-4-HP-Single-Phase-1725-RPM-Open-110V-220V/G2903

3/4 HP from grizzly for about $100

http://grizzly.com/products/Motor-1-2-HP-Single-Phase-1725-RPM-Open-110V-220V/G2901

1/2 HP for $90

The 1/2 is probably comparable to the 3/4 Hp one that the band saw comes with since the grizzly motor is better and probably more efficient

Chocflip201
02-26-2009, 03:12 AM
well the option of the extended warranty program will replace the motor for free for 2 years...

robs88yj
02-26-2009, 07:54 AM
In my Harbor Frieght they have a bi-metal replacement blade for these bandsaws. It is hanging with the rest of the blades. Cost a few dollars more. So far it has worked great. Made 50~ cuts in 2.5x2.5 1/4 Angle and then put the table on and cut a bunch of 3/8's freehand for tabs. Still going good. Me like.

cummins6speed
02-26-2009, 01:49 PM
well the option of the extended warranty program will replace the motor for free for 2 years...

Does it have any kind of regular warranty that it comes with?

Chocflip201
02-26-2009, 09:17 PM
Does it have any kind of regular warranty that it comes with?

she said 30 days if w/o the extended program.

cummins6speed
02-26-2009, 09:29 PM
she said 30 days if w/o the extended program.

Do they warraty the replacement parts for another 2 years from the date of replacement Im wondering? I think I am just going to go without the warranty and if the motor burns out Ill just replace it with the grizzly one

CaptainAirTime
02-27-2009, 02:49 AM
Do they warraty the replacement parts for another 2 years from the date of replacement Im wondering? I think I am just going to go without the warranty and if the motor burns out Ill just replace it with the grizzly one

Exactly, why replace the shite motor with the same thing, if it IS shite? OF course, there is the option of paying for a better unit up front, but my experience with chinese tools is that overall, they are worth while. replace or repair with better parts when required, you are still ahead of the game. Next trip to metro-land I will be picking up a band saw!

Chocflip201
02-27-2009, 03:31 AM
Do they warraty the replacement parts for another 2 years from the date of replacement Im wondering? I think I am just going to go without the warranty and if the motor burns out Ill just replace it with the grizzly one


Uhm if I read what you said correctly, no the extended warranty only covers parts that fail within 2 years of the purchase date, so if your motor goes out 1.9 years after you purchase it, thats the last motor you will get for free... but i understand about not getting the warranty, I just figured that I saved so much money with the sale and the coupon then might as well give a little for some insurance.

cummins6speed
02-28-2009, 12:09 AM
So I picked up my bandsaw tonight on my way through Vallejo, unfortunately I haven't had a chace to take it out of the box yet. I didn't go with the warranty, however if you dont buy the warranty and decide later you want it you can go in and purchase it. They give you a 30 day cash back refund, 90 day one time exchange and the option to buy a 1 or 2 year warranty

pnwjeepracer
02-28-2009, 06:41 PM
i'll sell you mine for 100.00 but i'm in tacoma washington

shaggy10000
02-28-2009, 09:36 PM
Picked mine up today. Works good so far. I hate chop saws. This is quicker and quieter.

Chocflip201
03-01-2009, 02:59 PM
Picked mine up today. Works good so far. I hate chop saws. This is quicker and quieter.

Thats why I wanted mine, because in the summer I will be working until the sun goes down every day and so I couldn't come home and use the chop saw at night or else my neighbors get pissed so I wanted something that I could still use to cut metal outside at midnight and not piss off the little old lady next door :bounce2:

shaggy10000
03-01-2009, 08:37 PM
Thats why I wanted mine, because in the summer I will be working until the sun goes down every day and so I couldn't come home and use the chop saw at night or else my neighbors get pissed so I wanted something that I could still use to cut metal outside at midnight and not piss off the little old lady next door :bounce2:

Exactly. Ive never had a problem with the neighbors, but i fabricate every single day out of my garage. I wouldnt want to live next to me. So far their cool and i want to keep it that way.

cummins6speed
03-06-2009, 01:59 AM
Nother 20% off

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/common/displayCoupon.do?week=1009&campaign=RetailC&page=coupon1.html&single=true&r=4275_282059&cust=78053362125&keycode=0000

shaggy10000
03-17-2009, 08:51 PM
Matrix II 5' 4.5" x .5" 10-14 varying TPI Bi-Metal Blade (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4WB86)--$29


Matrix II 5' 4.5" x .5" 14-18 varying TPI Bi-Metal Blade (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4WB87)-- $23



I just ordered 1 of each of these. We'll see how they do.

Chocflip201
03-17-2009, 10:56 PM
Meh.. I decided not to deal with the online stuff and just went down to the local U.S. Welding and got a 12 tpi... works great!

Sroufe7
03-18-2009, 10:02 PM
I got one a couple of months back and I love mine.

I am still using the stock blade, it's working for now.

I got it for $160+tax. It's a pretty hard to beat price.

Chocflip201
03-18-2009, 10:57 PM
I got one a couple of months back and I love mine.

I am still using the stock blade, it's working for now.

I got it for $160+tax. It's a pretty hard to beat price.


Same here I got it for $160 and tax... but my stock blade pooped out after 3 cuts on .125 wall 1" DOM tube

shaggy10000
03-18-2009, 11:13 PM
I got really lucky with my OEM blade. While it only made it a couple weeks, I have put a lot of hard miles on it.
Im interested to find out how well it runs the coarse tooth blade?????

shaggy10000
03-19-2009, 11:58 PM
I got the new blades in today One was the 14-18 tooth variable pitch. The other was who knows what. It was 7ft + long. It has to go back.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/th_DSC01545.jpg (http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/?action=view&current=DSC01545.jpg)
Its very similar to the oem, just a slight difference in tooth count. Also its welded seam looks more like it should. Instead of the half welded seam on the oem.
I got it all set up in the saw and ran a test piece. It seemed like a better cut and seems to cut faster, but its hard to tell because im running a super light feed to Break in the blade. After some time i will know a little better. I wish i had timed a cut on the oem blade. Oh well.
One thing i did notice is the cut thickness is slightly thinner than the oem blade was.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/th_DSC01549.jpg (http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/?action=view&current=DSC01549.jpg)

You can see here the one on the left is the new and old on the right.
Feeler gauge measures .038 on the new and .046 on the old.
Im planning on running this the same as the oem with no coolant as i usually do. Roughly the same feed also. When these new ones give up then i will switch to the cheaper $13 ones mentioned somewhere in this thread and see if those show similar results.

While i was messing with the saw today i decided to fix the handle on the clamp. I never could get that 10mm bolt tight enough to keep it from slipping on the shaft. I yanked out the bolt and drilled a hole in the shaft. That way the bolt will drop in the hole instead of relying on the marginal flat spot that was there before.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/th_DSC01547.jpg (http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/?action=view&current=DSC01547.jpg)

The bolt measured to just under 1/4" so i drilled a 1/4 hole.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/th_DSC01546.jpg (http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/?action=view&current=DSC01546.jpg)

Now all i can do is wait for the results. I should have some cutting to do this weekend.:beer:

mingoglia
03-20-2009, 12:36 AM
Good idea. I started having the same problem with mine. I'll have to steal your idea. :beer:


While i was messing with the saw today i decided to fix the handle on the clamp. I never could get that 10mm bolt tight enough to keep it from slipping on the shaft. I yanked out the bolt and drilled a hole in the shaft. That way the bolt will drop in the hole instead of relying on the marginal flat spot that was there before.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/th_DSC01547.jpg (http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/?action=view&current=DSC01547.jpg)

The bolt measured to just under 1/4" so i drilled a 1/4 hole.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/th_DSC01546.jpg (http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r124/shaggy10000/shop/?action=view&current=DSC01546.jpg)

Now all i can do is wait for the results. I should have some cutting to do this weekend.:beer:

shaggy10000
03-20-2009, 12:48 AM
If i can get a few projects done i have some other mods in mind for this little saw. One of which is the feed. Im not impressed with the spring at all. Try to cut some rectangle tube lengthwise. Once you cut through the top bit it slams downt to the bottom. Im going to make it better. :biggrin:

Chocflip201
03-20-2009, 01:46 AM
If i can get a few projects done i have some other mods in mind for this little saw. One of which is the feed. Im not impressed with the spring at all. Try to cut some rectangle tube lengthwise. Once you cut through the top bit it slams downt to the bottom. Im going to make it better. :biggrin:

A shock of some sorts perhaps? :cool:

THachiya
04-13-2009, 01:20 PM
After all of the comments, bit the bullet and got one of the HF 4x6 saws.

Went through three blades pretty quickly; once I got the guides dialed in, it has been cutting strip, square tube and angle like a champ. Have to agree with the band saw versus chop saw comments; why did I resist for so long?

Lessons Learned:


Cut "dry" and periodically lube the bearings between pieces. (Occasional WD-40 spraying on the blade during cutting attracted offal on the guides that eventually wedge between the bearing and the blade resulting in a break.)
I can see why there are so many custom stands. The height of the table is pretty useless for supporting long pieces: too tall for jack stands, too short for saw horses or adjustable rollers.
Open question mark on feed pressure (i.e. Spring Tension) as I'm clueless as to how to gauge it or tweak it for different thicknesses. For the moment I am "reading" the saw dust, watching the motor temp, and guessing.



Working on mounting an HF laser guide to help speed setup on longer pieces. (At this point I'm leaning toward the blade/pulley guard "door" but am looking for a more stable/reliable surface before drilling/tapping the holes.)

shaggy10000
04-13-2009, 11:52 PM
(Occasional WD-40 spraying on the blade during cutting attracted offal on the guides that eventually wedge between the bearing and the blade resulting in a break.)


that's what finally killed my OEM blade. I learned my lesson

THachiya
04-14-2009, 08:03 AM
that's what finally killed my OEM blade. I learned my lesson

I had to break two of them w/WD-40 before I matriculated to the next problem. Doh!

miteclgst
05-06-2009, 09:39 PM
Anyone build a replacement stand yet? Or has everyone been dealing with the crappy OEM unit?

THachiya
05-07-2009, 08:18 AM
Sorry for the crappy phone pix, but I had some leftover 2*3 and solved the problem of dealing with long stock with the "tweaner" sheet metal stand. (Too tall for my jack stands and too short for my rollers.)

It's offset to keep the weight of the motor inside the casters. (The HF tray is in the base so that you can eye-ball the width.)

http://www.hachiya.us/images/saw%20stand.jpg

shaggy10000
05-07-2009, 11:08 PM
Nice job on the stand. That should help a bunch.

Since im in here i thought i would give a little update on my blade situation
This will be an easy update since im still on the same blade :biggrin:
Ive cut 2" solid stock probably 10 times now, messing around with dimple die stuff, Just recently cut some 4" pipe, Lots of .120 tubing of varing sizes. Some 3/16 plate. Small pieces. Recently did an exhaust, Made a ton of cuts doing that. The list goes on and on. I use it almost daily. I still cut dry for the most part. I say that because lately i have tried giving it a quick spray with my soapy water bottle. Right at the start of the cut. It must be doing something because the cutting sound gets quieter when i do it. It doesnt make everything gum up like an oil type fluid, and only seems to be helping. Just a couple quick sprays to wet the blade is all i use. So far so good.

miteclgst
05-08-2009, 10:23 AM
I picked up two Irwin 10-14 blades from Enco (only $14 each!) and couldn't be happier with them. So far I have cut 1/4 x 6" flat stock several times, some 1 1/4 x 14g square tubing and some 2 x 2 x 1/8 angle. It cuts like a champ! Just set it and forget it. My two favorite things about the saw is that 1) I can work late into the night without upsetting my neighbors and 2) no dust all over the garage. I may end up building a stand, once I get some time.

CaptainAirTime
11-16-2009, 09:46 PM
If you like pink saws :thefinger:

Methinks a band saw is in my very near future!


OK, so it wasn't very near, but tonight I came home with this:

http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=150&ID=12028

So far, so good! OE blade cuts .025 slivers off the chunk of square tube I used for setup, time after time.

limegreentj
11-16-2009, 09:54 PM
i have the HF portable band saw...I LOVE IT!! keep the blade lubricated and cool (i just use some oil or whatever) and they last a long time (i get the blades from my LWS) for 10 bucks a piece

CaptainAirTime
11-16-2009, 10:35 PM
OK, so it wasn't very near, but tonight I came home with this:

http://www.kingcanada.com/Products.htm?CD=150&ID=12028

So far, so good! OE blade cuts .025 slivers off the chunk of square tube I used for setup, time after time.

OK, just noticed that the box of casters I have sitting here have the same shank as the little plastic feet on the front of the shitmetal frame of this thing. out with the old, in with the new! awesome, but a bit high now at the front. Well, good for the front is good for the back, I says! Uh, no. the weight of the motor folded the tab that is threaded for the foot/caster, and the caster goes up and under, while the whole thing does the slow roll over and play dead :crybaby2:

New frame from square tube (lots on hand) in the works... maybe some sort of debris catcher too.

Diverbill45
11-17-2009, 12:43 AM
I read something on the web the other day from either a blade company or a saw company and it might be of interest to all who own band saws.

I own a HF 7"x12" saw which has given me great service since new. It cuts straight and I've even shaved off material as thin as 1/16" thick and it cut real straight. Now mind you, it took some adjustment when it was new before I got it to cut real straight, but remember I'm talking about a HF saw and not a Ellis saw. There is a BIG difference in the two.

Over the years, I've often wondered at just what feed pressure a saw should be run at to get good cuts and the longest blade life. I've asked a few times, but nobody seemed to have a good answer.

The articile I read was about blade life. It stated that if you want to increase the life of the blade here is a test you can do on the saw. Lower the blade to the horiz. position, and with the feed valve wide open and the machine off, hook up a weight scale, such as a fish weight scale, to the blade tension adjustment set screw, in front of the saw. Raise the blade with the scale and take a look at the scale. If the scale reads more than 8 lbs. adjust the spring tension until it reads 8 lbs. The articile said that tests had been run with adjustments set at different weights and that 8 lbs. seemed to be the magic number, for the longest blade life. After the adjustment is made you don't have to worry about adjusting the feed valve because the most feed pressure that will be allowed would be 8 lbs., even if you open up the feed valve all the way.

I don't know if this would work the same on the smaller saws, but for the 7"x12" and larger ones this was the adjustment they were doing.

I've adjusted my saw and so far it's been doing good.

Just thought I'd pass this along and hope it helps.

shaggy10000
02-08-2010, 09:46 PM
I know this is back from the dead but, the weight scale is good info.
I originally came back to this thread to find part #'s to the blades i was using. While im here i can add my update. I finally broke the 2nd blade from the 2 i bought. I cant even begin to count how many cuts i've made, but its been a sheet load. I still only use a quick spray of soapy water and nothing else.
Also i've decided that the finer tooth blade works better than the coarse. Im going to order a couple more of the fine from now on. :beer:
Matrix II 5' 4.5" x .5" 14-18 varying TPI Bi-Metal Blade (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4WB87) --$23 <-- now $29


Edit: I forgot that im going to try the cheaper one this time
Morse 5' 4.5" x .5" 18 TPI Blade (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4WU12) --$13 <-- Now $15

CJW
02-09-2010, 10:08 AM
Does anybody have a picture of it set up in the vertical position?

Fordota
02-09-2010, 10:25 AM
We had the bigger version of that and loved it. Ours was the one with oil though.

UnusualFabrication
02-09-2010, 03:18 PM
There a band saw on CL in my area for sale that's looks the same as the HF unit but reads Metal Max on it. Anyone heard of these? I may see if I can get it dirt cheap. Been wanting one for awhile now.

Section 8
08-27-2010, 10:11 PM
Also i've decided that the finer tooth blade works better than the coarse. Im going to order a couple more of the fine from now on. :beer:
Matrix II 5' 4.5" x .5" 14-18 varying TPI Bi-Metal Blade (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4WB87) --$23 <-- now $29


Edit: I forgot that im going to try the cheaper one this time
Morse 5' 4.5" x .5" 18 TPI Blade (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4WU12) --$13 <-- Now $15

Have you gotten to the cheaper blade yet?

shaggy10000
08-27-2010, 11:48 PM
Have you gotten to the cheaper blade yet?

Yes. Using it now. Infact, im on my second one. It seems to be just as good. The first one didnt last as long as the others,but i think that was because i got impatient a few times and gave it a little extra weight.:biggrin:
the second one is holding up fine.

SomeGuyFromOlympia
08-28-2010, 08:25 PM
This was my main saw until I could afford something bigger.

Other than the cheesy sheet metal stand, it was worth the money.
I just get the blades from Harbor Freight...they are cheap, but if you don't abuse them they last.

I've has it for probably eight years.....just keeps going.

Oh, I take that back, the blade got pinched, and stopped the motor.....
I strolled back in the shop with my sandwitch and found a smoking dripping stinkey humming thing that was dripping a bunch of something all over the place.

So I guess I'll have to say that I have replaced the motor.........but if I was paying attention, I wouldn't have had that problem

kevtsi
09-01-2010, 07:01 PM
We have a Princess auto one at work and its been cutting every day for 4 years.

We also use a big hydraulic industrial one. For a small piece under (4in tube) or quick job the small saw is winner. Its just easier to get the piece cut.

I have that small portaband in the taco thread and Ive used it a few times with satisfaction but its not a fixed saw thats forsure, Although I have thought of making some kind of fixed saw table for it.

guidolyons
09-22-2010, 04:57 PM
I got one ~3 years ago. My POS chopsaw hasn't been used once since then. I used the stock blade for awhile with pretty good results, but decided to swap in a new one from Tractor Supply. A good blade does make a significant difference. I still have the stamped stand...so far it's been doing ok, but that will be the next upgrade.

Google "4x6 bandsaw", I found several websites on how to make them better, I think there is even a yahoo group. I have a few saved in favorites. The stand is a piece of crap, build a new stand and the saw is not bad. Some guys even add a drip pan and coolant...
Here's a few:
http://www.mini-lathe.com/Bandsaw/Bandsaw.htm#bandsaw

http://www.tinyisland.com/4x6bsFAQ.html

http://www.homemetalshopclub.org/pro.../sawstand.html

Obviously not up to full on production work, but for a small shop or average home garage, I would by it again.

Other than a new blade and a a few adjustments, it cuts nice and straight & square. I cracked the plastic blade tension knob, so I made a new one.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=364993&d=1208134883

Tony Ramos
09-22-2010, 09:48 PM
I haven't used this one, but I found it at Enco. It's a 5"x6" for $279.00.
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?PMPAGE=580&PARTPG=INLMK3&PMITEM=505-6840

Guilty By Design
09-28-2010, 09:18 PM
I got mine about a year ago and it worked for what i needed it for. I got a bigger enco saw now and use the HF merely as a standup sheetmetal saw now.

tchil
10-12-2010, 06:27 AM
I have had one now for 8-9 years from harbor freight, paid 179 back then and used the heck out of it. Home Depot in Mesa AZ used to carry the blades in stock believe it or not. I have thought about getting a bigger better one for a while but that thing just wont quit working.

Tony Ramos
01-16-2011, 12:27 AM
I finally bought the HF unit. Bought it on the Thanksgiving day sale. I've used the crap out of it. The only think is I had to change the stand and switch. The stand was too low and the switch would get in the way of the saw and make it finish the cut at an angle. Anybody want to buy a stand. It come with mag wheels and a good used switch.

D.G.F
02-08-2011, 07:42 PM
i have the grizzly one its the same as the hf and i love it my chop saw is strictly for notching tubing
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s308/wd40films/iphone028.jpg

CJ7JEEP187
02-10-2011, 06:37 PM
Does anyone have a picture of the bandsaw in the vertical position? How well does it work when feeding material in by hand?

GeoTracker90
03-14-2011, 03:46 AM
I just picked up my saw last week for $70. :smokin: deal, I know especially with the Lenox blade that came with it.

Here is a picture of my saw in the vertical wit a table that I built for cutting material in the vertical position. Table is made from some scrap 1/4" material.

Mike


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t101/Geotracker90/12%20x%2016%20Shed/DSCF9192.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t101/Geotracker90/12%20x%2016%20Shed/DSCF9193.jpg

SM Racing
04-26-2011, 06:47 PM
Bumpin' the old thread. I found that you need to clean out that crap they call oil in the gear box. I replaced mine and put more in it. It was very low and looked like tar. I cleaned it out and replaced it with some 80w-90 gear oil. Should last for ever. It did quiet the gear noise down some. Also replace as much hardware as you can. I usually drill and re-tap to the next biggest size of metric hardware. Seems to make a difference. I have been buying my blades from McMaster Carr. Their prices are reasonable and I can get stuff overnight.

kb3gun
04-27-2011, 12:30 PM
I agree with SM Racing. Check that gearbox. I've had mine for 3 years and lost the gear last month (All the oil leaked out over the years). The gearbox was full of brass shavings. Found a replacement bronze gear and new bearing on Amazon and am installing it this evening. Great bandsaw otherwise. Something can be said for preventive maintenance...

alwaysFlOoReD
03-06-2012, 01:47 PM
Just bought a 'trademaster' for $70.00. Added some oil to the gearbox and it's running. Haven't tried a cut yet but I imagine I will have to do a major tune-up.

http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww342/mrich1962/misc/tools/4x6%20bandsaw/IMG_1426.jpg

http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww342/mrich1962/misc/tools/4x6%20bandsaw/IMG_1425.jpg

Richard

Chocflip201
03-06-2012, 11:09 PM
Not bad, as an update from me, I have only had to replace 2 blades in the two years I've had it. I also have had to replace one V-belt because I was cutting some DOM and walked away for a bit and the blade had jammed up and burned up the belt. I also have in the plans to build a new stand for it because A) I feel the factory height of the deck is way too low, so I want to make it taller. B) the factory wheel system is a pain in the ass. The factory wheel-holder bracket bent and now I have to tilt it way far to get the weight on the wheels, so I will be putting it on casters with locking brakes and C) I hate how the shelf on the factory legs gets filled with metal shavings so I won't have a shelf there anymore.

Oldsarge
04-02-2012, 11:24 PM
I ended up with 2 of these saws... One I keep for regular cutting... this is what I did to the other one:

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj533/oldsarge2/2012-02-12_12-04-16_417.jpg

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj533/oldsarge2/2012-02-12_12-04-27_208.jpg

I use this saw like crazy! I've cut up to 1" thick freehand, and it works great... The key, as stated earlier in this thread... get a better bi-metal blade!

Oldsarge